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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bahamut
You're not telling the whole truth. No 5g Mirage LS came with a G94 from the factory, unless swapped, hit with nitro, or banged from a small turbo.

Only 1 G93 owner swapped to a G94 before swapping to an Evo +4 in the US. The 2nd guys hasn't been confirmed. This isn't a cost effective way. You can spec a G93 similar to a G94 like AQ who now owns a RA. Also, there are 2 others with a G15 swapping to a G94, not confirmed again.
I make a swap this cars Come with a G93 1.8L soch engine what I did is uses a G94 of a Lancer OZ rally edition 2003 block is the same has the 2006 Lancers ES,DS
put a G93 head the the pistons are custom made G5 the head have a good work on it but the think here is that engine block have low pistons and a red limit in 6,000.

What I do was use the Mirage ECU that limits 6,800 If you dint want to spend in
pistons buy pistons of mirage LS 1.8L that are high compression I leave you with this
tip. think about it.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gregivq
I wish it could be N/A but I know that's impossible.
Yes is possible is N/A the think here is you need to know the engine analized it.

you can take of it the HP that you want.


My car is a Mirage LS coupe 99 come with a 4g93 engine that is a 1.8L sohc

bored is 81mm with flat pistons.

The 4g94 engine look exactly like the 4g93 the think is here this engine comes with

bored 81.5mm and low pistons.


Here comes the little detail and tip.

What I do was buy 4g93 .40 pistons that are flat put into the 4g94 block use a
4g93 head and the ECU because the 4g93 engine the engine goes to 6,800 and the 4g94 is in 6,000 believed me 800 revolution make a lot of deference in this engine. Buy a American Cam with myown specs obviostly the other thinks like iceman,header,exhaust,fuel regulator have a good job on the head. that all.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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I leave you with this video of a event Mirage LS coupe shoot out.

my car is the second one appear make 13.3 with a bad 60ft.

http://www.savefile.com/files/1140399
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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the 1.8L G93 SOHC is about the same engine as what we have. Pistons compression is 9.5:1, same as ours. Good tip for the 1.5L guys, I suppose. However, the G93 DOHC had 10.5:1 compression

the G92 MIVEC was 11:1 and the G92 SOHC was 10:1 <- same family so they should fit... don't go buying them based on my info, though These are the "magic" engines that RPW would have you source to direct drop into your Lancer for maximum upgradability for least initial cost.

GunGrave, it sound slike you made extra work for yourself.... why did you use the G94 block with G93 overbored pistons, con rods, head and ECU? I'm not following how you're using a "G94" engine when it's mostly G93. Was this cheaper (easier?) than boring out and sleeving a G93?

Good work, though.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Alchemist
the 1.8L G93 SOHC is about the same engine as what we have. Pistons compression is 9.5:1, same as ours. Good tip for the 1.5L guys, I suppose. However, the G93 DOHC had 10.5:1 compression

the G92 MIVEC was 11:1 and the G92 SOHC was 10:1 <- same family so they should fit... don't go buying them based on my info, though These are the "magic" engines that RPW would have you source to direct drop into your Lancer for maximum upgradability for least initial cost.

GunGrave, it sound slike you made extra work for yourself.... why did you use the G94 block with G93 overbored pistons, con rods, head and ECU? I'm not following how you're using a "G94" engine when it's mostly G93. Was this cheaper (easier?) than boring out and sleeving a G93?

Good work, though.
For mitsus you got the G9 series is like honda with the Bseries, here from where I am the people put G92 head in G93 engine blocks obviosly using the G92 pistons
remember the G94 engine block have develope more torque and the pistons with
the head more compresion that should be my friend,you got torque by the engine block and HP with the little more compression. You can too put the G92 pistons in the G94 engine why the over sized to because .40 in the G93 is 82mm but the G94 block is 81.5 you only gonna bored .20 you gain little more torque and hp in that detail in the G94.

this are the G92 pistons the dohc mivec 1.6L engine you can put to the engine:

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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 07:40 AM
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Which head are you using- the single or dual OHC? And which ECU? From your description, the advantage of the G93 ECU is the extra 800 RPM. That's a little scary on the G94 because of the difference in length of the rods- that might be a little too much extra, but I don't know.

I'm definitely taking notes! Thanks for your input.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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Someone said LSD (and then said phantomgrip- yikes!) Is there a Mirage LSD that will work in our tranny that's less expensive than what's currently available? Any clutch recommendations?

Since this is a general Mirage -> Lancer compatibility thread: what about pistons? Anyone know where we can get the pistons from a 1.8L DOHC? What about a G92? (MIVEC G92 was 11:1 and SOHC G92 was 10:1) Too bad I couldn't find the bore info on any of those

y'all know I'm not one to pimp RRM but if you need the TOB they have them for $100. At least that way you can avoid the dealer hassle.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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with my next paycheck i think i am going to try the Unorthodox UDP from the 5g mirage...i'm hoping it works.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Alchemist
Which head are you using- the single or dual OHC? And which ECU? From your description, the advantage of the G93 ECU is the extra 800 RPM. That's a little scary on the G94 because of the difference in length of the rods- that might be a little too much extra, but I don't know.

I'm definitely taking notes! Thanks for your input.

I am using for now sohc of G93, my goal for now is though the 12 sec with a sohc engine may be later I gonna do a real mitsu hybrid putting G92 head in the g94 engine block for run 12 low or in a future 11 sec.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurt
I'm trying to save a little money and not have to buy a throwout bearing from Mitsubishi. It doesn't make since to offer a clutch kit for a 02-03 Lancer without a throwout bearing. The throwout bearing is why I am replacing everything.
02-03 throwout bearing is ridiculously cheap at www.prostreetonline.com that's where i got mine. next day shipping too.

crank is different, rods are different. lancer rod specs are: wrist pin - 19mm, big end - 50mm, length - 152.9mm and mirage (4G93) specs: wrist pin 22mm, big end - 48mm, length - 133.4mm. although, if you use mirage pistons, wrist pins, and rods, boring the big end to match the lancer 50mm crank, then you will effectively lower your compression ratio while having mirage internals. pistons will work if you get the overbore pistons from the mirage which are the 81.5mm overbore (since lancer bore is 81.5). i have a set of mirage overbore pistons that i am using in my engine build.

as for flywheels, www.horsepowerfreaks.com lists 4 different flywheels for the mirage which should work for the lancer. i'm still trying to get them to tell me the weights of the differing options so i can order one.

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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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Awesome info, Crash.

Moving to Lancer General, for obvious reasons.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Blacksheepdj
Awesome info, Crash.
+1
i would like to see you around more often

mark


EDIT: i just ordered a UDP @ 2pm on June 8th. as soon as i get it; i'm going to see if i can get the S.O.B to work on the lancer. i'll keep everybody posted as things come along.

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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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That is a nice piece of information.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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thanks guys!

took me a while to piece everything together, but i finally came upon the info i needed. it helps that i'm building my engine and am in desperate need of some of the parts, so i have some motivation to find info about things. hopefully it all pays off when i get my 400whp lancer monster running!
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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crash- I can't find the TOB on the prostreet site under lancer transmission or clutch. Where'd you see it? Thanks!
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