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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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More like a manufacturing defect...
I was being sarcastic.....
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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I was being sarcastic.....
Me 2 .
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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(FYI) You aren't going to find many supporters with the "Corvette handles poorly argument" It's hilarious that someone would bring up handling as a Corvette fault.
*Again, have you ever driven one? or are you just looking up stats in the back of Road and Track?
*I've actually OWNED one.
*Go back to your Road and Track and READ some of the past handling comparisons, you will find out that ultimate grip on the skid pad does not make it the best handling car. for an example an NSX
*And for the record, my original argument was about two street cars on a twisty back road NOT race cars on a race track!
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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Most have already seen this I'm sure, but if you haven't it's top gears review of the Z06

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaIg_dIpNGI
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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I am going to take this pic to the Dealer, and let him get me something close to this
that Z06 is pure sex
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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That TopGear review is extremely well done! For a bunch of Brits, probably jealous of the C6 Z06, they do a pretty darn good job of talking about and talking about its strengths.

~j.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NY Evolutionary
*Again, have you ever driven one? or are you just looking up stats in the back of Road and Track?
Irrelevant. Your personal experience and my personal experience is not enough data to conclude the Corvette doesn't handle well. The overwhelming majority of people rate the Corvettes handling positively. That is a fact.
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*I've actually OWNED one.
Congrats. I'm sure I could find more than a few past EVO owners that didn't like the EVO's handling. As I said above - your personal opinion does not equal fact or represent the majority of opinions.
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*Go back to your Road and Track and READ some of the past handling comparisons, you will find out that ultimate grip on the skid pad does not make it the best handling car. for an example an NSX
In the Corvette's case, it grips well and handles well. Thus, it turns in faster laps times than cars costing much more money and it does it with less power many times.
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*And for the record, my original argument was about two street cars on a twisty back road NOT race cars on a race track!
Your "argument" should have been stated as an opinion -
Originally Posted by NY Evoutionary
Fast going straight but ................... I would kick its as on a twisty streach!!!
(I had an 01 and it handled like SH@%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
When you kick its "as" on a twisty stretch, what does that refer to? The Z06 is MUCH faster.

BTW, here is another comparison that may interest you:
While the tuner cars battled to see who could hit the highest top speed on our course, the stock production cars had a slightly different fight. For the stockers, we set a lower top speed — 120 mph, a speed all three cars were capable of attaining. So the winner was determined by lowest elapsed time.
We invited three production cars, all with more than 400 horsepower: a 460-hp Dodge Viper ACR, a 405-hp Corvette Z06, and a 415-hp Porsche 911 Turbo. All three rode on stock tires set at their recommended pressures.

We also allowed each manufacturer to send a driver, and surprise! the manufacturers sent us a trio of highly talented drivers. Porsche sent three-time Le Mans winner and long-time Porsche driver Hurley Haywood. Chevy sent hard-charging John Heinricy, GM North America's director of vehicle dynamics and a successful production-car racer. And finally, Dodge called in Tommy Archer, a veteran Viper driver on the international sports-car circuit.
The production cars would suffer a problem or two also. On the way to the track, the Viper's clutch quit. A visual inspection did not suggest a quick fix, so another Viper was dispatched from the home office in Auburn Hills. It arrived three hours later in the middle of a rainstorm that would continue for the rest of the day. So unfortunately, Archer and the Viper didn't get a chance to join the intense Porsche-Chevy war that was waged throughout the morning.

The common thinking at the staging area was that the Porsche's all-wheel-drive system would help it overcome its less-advantageous power-to-weight ratio. The Porsche's twin-turbocharged flat-six thumps out 10 more horses than the Corvette's newly fortified 405-hp V-8, but the Chevy has the substantial advantage of being 375 pounds lighter.
The Porsche squirted off the line quicker, as we figured it would, to 30 mph. But when the needle touched 60, the svelte Vette opened up a 0.1-second gap that would only widen as acceleration continued. Heinricy is also so well practiced in production Corvettes (most of Haywood's time has been spent in Porsche race cars) that he snicked off clutchless upshifts as if he were in a finger-shifting Formula 1 racer.

If we thought the Porsche would have the edge in straight-line acceleration, we weren't sure what would happen on the road course. The best Corvette Z06 we've tested outperformed the 911 Turbo on the skidpad (0.98 g versus 0.93 for the 911) and in braking tests, stopping from 70 mph in 152 feet, 11 feet shorter than the Porsche can manage. But again, we thought the four-wheel-drive Porsche would squirt out of corners quicker. Any advantage the Porsche's driveline provides wasn't enough, however, as the Vette pulled higher grip in almost every corner and finished the road-course portion sooner by 1.9 seconds.
Haywood, however, was able to maximize the Porsche Turbo's traction and exit the road course about 5 mph faster, erasing some of the road-course deficit during the final sprint to 120 mph. But as the speeds increased, the Vette's lower drag coefficient (0.29 versus 0.31) gave it yet another edge, and it finished the full course a slimmest-of-slim 0.7 second sooner. It was a photo finish every race spectator hopes to see. —Larry Webster
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...challenge.html

Yes, believe it or not the $45k Z06 beat the $115,000 911 Turbo AROUND the track AND in a straight line. So much for the "SH@%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" handling.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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Top Gear video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp6VQpG8CRE
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by VTECH8TR
No offense, but you have always been posting on how great the Vettes are. I hope you own one by now. I tihnk you have the wrong car in youre sig .

You are in an Evo Forum telling members how great the Allmighty Vette is and then you post how better the Vette is when members write negative about one.


Please tell us you are buying one .


To the OP the Z06 Vette is No Joke. It is all that and a bag of chips LOL.....
I am the OP Vipers/Vettes are a better platform than a EVO for all but the tightest roadcourses and definately better in the drag dept. no debate needed there.

If you look at other posts I own a EVO because I was tired of Cobras/Mustangs and have 4 kids. So, currently a two seat sports car isn't in the family budget it's close just not quite there. It will be soon then the two seater will sit in the garage with the EVO and I will have direct comparisons for all of EVOM I love EVO's and want the 700whp version like everyone else, but I'm also enough of a carnut to know a better horse when I see one.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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Yes the Vette cost 2 times the EVO MR
Ill take a MR
But stick with my 993 Porsche Twin Turbo
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ak47po
lol, this is the first time i've seen a repost of a repost in the same thread
look at post #79
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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So..... Have you ever driven one ???? This has been asked before
Answer , NO
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasil
I am the OP Vipers/Vettes are a better platform than a EVO for all but the tightest roadcourses and definately better in the drag dept. no debate needed there.

If you look at other posts I own a EVO because I was tired of Cobras/Mustangs and have 4 kids. So, currently a two seat sports car isn't in the family budget it's close just not quite there. It will be soon then the two seater will sit in the garage with the EVO and I will have direct comparisons for all of EVOM I love EVO's and want the 700whp version like everyone else, but I'm also enough of a carnut to know a better horse when I see one.
If you so in love with the "better horse" why don't you spend time on their forums with others who believe the same thing. People buy evo's b/c the performance to dollar ratio is very good. Vipers/Vettes are cool but much more expensive and less practical. A 4 door 2 liter that keeps up on a road course with these cars is an impressive feat. 700whp evos are amazing but crazy expensive because the evo was not built to just go fast in a straight line but be an all around performer.
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