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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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8 and 9 is about the same
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
Having owned all three, I'd rate them IX > X >> VIII.

The IX is a much better car than the VIII, especially the 03s like I had. The VIII seat coverings are way down from the IX, the turbo is smaller, and there is no Mivec. You needed quite a few mods on an 03 to equal 06 power.

There are things about the X I like more than the IX, but I think an overseas IX would be the way to go since we got screwed out of SAYC. As the USA cars are, I think the X handles best by far because of this, but the steering rack is a bit quicker in the VIIIs and IXs.

If I had my choice, I'd have a hybrid of a IX and a X. Give me a IX SE with MR suspension and the aluminum roof, make it Electric Blue (since you couldn't get them that way in the USA), the IX engine, and transmission, but the full X SAWC system. Then the X front seats with IX style seat covers. Top if off with X wheels, tires, and brakes. Yum.
The power advantage of EVO IX mainly has to do with larger less comprssor surge turbo charger, more aggressive cams. MIVEC? I don't know about that. MIVEC helps with broader torque band, but in reality, to give you an example. my VIII has HKS 272 CAMS VS my friend's IX. We both have the same bolt ons except I have upgrade cams. But remember stock VIII cams are weaker than IX cams and stock VIII turbo is much smaller than IX turbo. And HKS 272 cams aren't that aggressive either. Both car pulls neck to neck in the staright line and my VIII still has the stock turbo. MIVEC doesn't really show any advantage in the straight line.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fugiwara
despite all the reality about how good EVO X handles and performs, the outcome speaks for themselves. One of the most hardcore race event in Japan, "Super Taikyu" series ( in English it means "Super Endurance") proves that track setup EVOX will not outrun the EVO IX.
watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAbD4QLMQvs
both of these cars have the same suspension components, but EVO X is a whole new different chasis, stronger supposely. But in reality, when both car are being modified under the same regulation, the outcome is very interesting... I wasn't suprised at all.
That video was edited to make the IX win, 90% of posters in this thread knows X is god.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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The 8 vs the new platform is a s follows based on my experience.

Interior is a givin on the x being better

The stering had a better dead center than the previous evos and when driving hard you do not need to counter steer due to a stronger chasis and ayc. but the feel is slightly sharper on the 8 some would argue a little to twitchy for most drivers to where it is more of a handicap than a benifit.

Acceleration yes the 8 has more lag but is still faster than the x not by much but it's a fact I feel if the x did not run so rich it would be closer maybe mitsu did this for emisions or to be safe.

All in all the x is a better handeling car that is slower at acelleration but is a more well rounded car that is built to a higher standard of ridgitity with very good front rear balance. its softer yet sharper it is a very well done car that more people will embrace and did nt abadon the hardcore to get there. Mitsu got it right with the x and they deseve props.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by derangedazn
I bolded the important word in that phrase. Everyone's perception is different.
thank you exactly right everyones perception is different and that car FELT weak even in stock for stock form VIII and IX models definatley in general are superior to me
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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I've only had my X MR for 6 months versus 4.5 years on my old VIII. For sure the X has a better interior and amenities, but the VIII is hands down the quicker of the two. Both are/were stock, no mods. And I say quicker in terms of roads that matter to me. Despite my best efforts so far, I can't get the X MR within 45 seconds of the VIII on a nearby 10 mile twisty passageway. More time with the X may prove different, but I don't remember VIII taking so long to master.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by salukidude
I've only had my X MR for 6 months versus 4.5 years on my old VIII. For sure the X has a better interior and amenities, but the VIII is hands down the quicker of the two. Both are/were stock, no mods. And I say quicker in terms of roads that matter to me. Despite my best efforts so far, I can't get the X MR within 45 seconds of the VIII on a nearby 10 mile twisty passageway. More time with the X may prove different, but I don't remember VIII taking so long to master.
You have a MR. Its heavier than the already heavy gsr, if you were looking to outperform your 8 you got the wrong version.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 04:28 AM
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I test drove a nine band new in 07 and that thing was a beast. I got back to the dealership, sat in a chair and just stared at the wall shocked, amazed and scared ****less at how fast the nine was. The performance of the car takes your mind off of how bad the interior is( as most say). I love the previous evos inside and out. I wish i had the money to buy a nine and the 370z
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 04:44 AM
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i own an viii and i just bought my wife an x...

i love how the x feels when i drive it...like you said, it feels way more stable and solid. prolly from all the high tech stuff added to assist driving (s-awc). interior is better, smooth ride, pulls strong, etc.

but for some reason, everytime i get in my viii and drive it, i get excited and feel like i'm having a blast driving. there's rattles, interior looks like a taxi cab, etc. but i still love driving my viii...

simply put, this is what i feel when i drive my wife's x:

and this is what it feels like when i drive my viii:

then again, it's a stock x...my viii's modded a bit, but it's not all about power and speed.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 04:46 AM
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So you're comparing a used 19k evo 8 to your new evo X. Nice. Lets try your review again with an evo 8 with new tires, new brakes. Call me when you've done it again, a little more fair.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Kuba23
I owned a 600 whp evo VIII a 400 plus Whp evo IX rs and now i own the X this car i love the most. i dunno if its the handling or the way the car feels when i drive it but there is something about this car that i dont look back at my previous evo's
To me, you seems qualified to make comparison as you owned all the versions.
Thank god I got an X.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 05:26 AM
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I find it really funny, how the VIII guys jumped out from no where in this section as soon as some one compere they VIII.
My opinion. is a following.

Stock vs stock all evos are equal for driving experience. Really not much a difference between them, if you compere the GSR vs GSR. The MR or the RS models are in the EVo line , has a major difference / like the SST or X dont even have an RS/ so i do not compere them.
WHat i'm saying is, doesn't matter which evo you drive , you know its an EVo, in stock form. No real surprises there. The biggest thing you can feel is the S-AWC , not the ride quality or the steering respond.They all about the same. Or the turbo lag, the VIII have a biggest turbo feel, and it getting smoother as you go in the MIVEC world... Like the IX has smaller but have a bigger turbo with only one Mivec cam...
I really think as soon as some one have to defend they own car , most people became instantly Aytron Senna.
who dont know him :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayrton_Senna

About the look:
Yes i do agree the VIII is the less "good" looking then a IX and the X.
There are many talk and so on about this subject so it is not really only my opinion.
But the look, in the evo world, should not be a dividing point.

About the interior material:
The Plastic is just a same in all the EVo's. Cheap etc.
Dont even try that moron speech, like the plastic is thicker... etc.

I own all 3 us model Evo, and i did and do use them for racing to please myself.

here is MY experience in racing:

The VIII is a good and cheap track car since the spark plugs even the last costly. But kills the tires/most costly one/ It was heavy/SSL/ and it was an 04 so took a LOT to get over 330 whp and a lots of job to make the car track ready.Also the breaks are fading easier then a X.Need a lot of chassis reinforcement and suspension add on's to make it feel good.

The IX was an RS , so right there the weight reduction wasn't a problem, It was easier to go over 330 whp , it was quick and fast faster then the VIII hands down. But still need a quiet few mods to go over the power level i want. And still is an ultimate killer for tires . The breaks are fades easier then a X. Still need a lot of chassis reinforcement and suspension add on's to make it feel good. I loved that car.

The X. Needs weight reduction but nothing crazy amount to go under my VIII. Just a rear crash beam weights twice as much or the rear seats have a metal bars etc. so no worries.
Big minus , no CT9A parts fit on it , so you need to start from ground zero.
Big plus: The power gain for mods. NO 4G63 is can match with the 4B11T with power gain in simple mods. Also the car is just rev happy, hard to fell out of boost, not soo much in the VIII.
the car feels more composed compere any other evo i drove. /yes i drove VI too, about a year /

the best proof is my 100 utoq rating tires after 9000 miles and 4 track days on road course...
NO Us Evo can match with thise well balanced set up, what the Evo X have, period. Unless you do a major modification on them. SO My final conclusion is : just as it should be. 8<9< X
There is a reason why they call it EVOLUTION.



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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jayevo23
You have a MR. Its heavier than the already heavy gsr, if you were looking to outperform your 8 you got the wrong version.
wtf did I have a ? in my previous post. I know what weighs what and I purchased the correct version, but thanks for the insight.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by salukidude
wtf did I have a ? in my previous post. I know what weighs what and I purchased the correct version, but thanks for the insight.
no you didnt have a question but your acting all surprised that you cant catch your old 8 in the mr. and i would be surprised if your was 8 stock

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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jayevo23
no you didnt have a question but your acting all surprised that you cant catch your old 8 in the mr. and i would be surprised if your was 8 stock
Dude if you read my op I say that the VIII is hands down the quicker of the two. I am not surprised. btw the VIII was stock unless you count a shorty antenna and wheels. AND don't forget that my op was in response to a thread asking about differences between VIII and X; before it was merged into this gay mega thread which I am bowing out of.
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