my fault, didn't realize your experience. Most people can't get the ix to rotate on power with the stock set up diff, including myself.

 

Someone told me:
The IX is a street version of a race car, the X is a race version of a street car.
I think is kind a right, but I know one thing for sure I would never trade my IX for a X!
However I might buy a X MR for DD next to the IX.

 

damn this does not make a decision very easy lol. im leaning towards an x gsr. was thinking i would go the less expensive way with an 08 but sounds like i would be dealing with factory issues that needed to be worked out so a 2010 would be better but pricier. i want a nice dd that i can mod and have fun with as a dd with occasional track days and potentially turn into a track only terror in the future. how much reliable power are x's putting out now? and is it way more expensive modding x's over 8 or 9s? and as for tracking, id like to get into time attack more than autox

 

and who was that "someone"? LOL

 

i might be miss understand here something , but the X engine is lighter, sits lower and sits further back (closer to the CG) then a 4g63 + it has a turbo the opposite side closer to the cg line.
also the car is a little shorter + wider. So that might also help in the corners.
Being taller is def. not
Also the engine has a much better power range and curb .

 

All true, I was just going by this http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/05/e...uba-lap-times/

"So there you have it. The new engine placed further forward in the engine bay of the EVO X than in the EVO IX has indeed proven to be a handicap, while the STI's "wheel at each corner" longer wheelbase plus new double wishbone rear suspension has proved its worth."

For any amount of reasonable horsepower I think it's pretty much shaped up to be the better motor. In all the ways you mentioned 4b11 is a better motor

Oh and I think in reference to that particular post, I think I was saying the AYC probably contributes more to the rotation of the car than the improved weight distribution.. Weight distribution can be misleading, 50:50 can be anything from all the weight sitting at the furthest ends of the car, to all the weight being right in the middle. When the weight is further spread apart, the rear differential needs to play a bigger role in terms of getting the car to rotate. No idea for non tarmac though, Rob =]

 

Yes, just like the title says,

Who would trade / sell your VIII or IX for the new EVO X

WHY ?

WHY NOT ?

 

I would have to see one in person first. Then I would be more likley to keep my EVO and just buy the X as a second vehicle.

 

That was your wife @ a V17 meet a long time ago...

 

h yeah , when the X was new and she was missing the IX which she raced sometime.

Ask her now ... LOL

 

Here's a question, that I'm sure is answered somewhere and probably repeatedly discussed but after searching and reading 100 pages of this thread my eyes hurt. If anyone thinks this is worthy of a new thread, or there is a thread that can summarize what I'm looking for please point me in the right direction since I am definitely not a forum newb and don't want to add repetitive crap to all the info already out there. (The search function on this forum is kinda hit or miss, is it just me?)

I'm debating between an Evo IX MR - X GSR - and X MR. This car would be street only as my daily driver, I am building a 2006 STI for track purposes so I don't need a 500whp monster car. I am only considering the IX because of the 6 speed manual, I already have my "Raw" track car so the more refined look of the X would be ideal. I know I want an Evo, not another car. The car would be stage 2(ish) which I gather is a bit different from an STi. It would get an intake, IC piping, downpipe, midpipe, cbe, fuel pump, tune + wide wheels/swaybars/coilovers.

Essentially my dilemma is this:

• I do not know if I would like a 5 speed, every car I have owned has been a 6 speed. You can test drive the car as many times as you want but as far as daily driving (30 miles of highway each way, and I know I'd have a TBE) would the lack of a 6th gear eventually drive me nuts? I.E. 5th gear at 75 on crusie control. If the X MR was 6 speed manual, it would be no contest.
• Who out there has gone stage 2(ish) with an MR? Any serious performance differences transmission-wise between the GSR and MR?
• How's day to day with the paddles? I'm sure its quirky and cool at first, but does it stay that way?

I realize a large amount of this is personal preference, and since I don't want to buy one and develop my own to just decide I chose wrong I'd really appreciate if I could get your impressions after several years ownership. Any other thoughts are also appreciated. Again I can delete this and move it to a more appropriate place if directed to one.

 

If you've already got a dedicated track car, go with the X MR. IX 5spd is loud on the highway, IX MR gearing is actually not all that better - 6spd is barely taller than the GSR's 5, it's more like a gear in between 4 and 5, and the X GSR is worse for highway gearing. Go with the X MR.

 

The search box isn't great. Go to the search tab on the forum header, click on advanced search. It works very well.

FWIW, on a IX the difference between the 6-speed and the 5-speed at cursing speed is less than ~300RPM. Good luck.

 

That's where I'm leaning, plus it's easier in case whomever I'm dating for some reason needs to drive the car. Not that I'd let them if I could help it.

Oh, sweet ok. Will do, thanks.


Really? That's pretty lame.

 

The Evolution isn't a highway cruiser. It's a corner carver with very short gears. Fifth gear on the 6-speed was meant to bridge the gap between 4th and 5th on the 5-speed. The 6-speed isn't there for driver comfort or fuel economy. By the sounds of it you're looking for something a bit less focused.