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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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updated review by motortrend revised the results and favored the 06 evo IX MR vs the STi in their "2007" review.
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_shows...007/video.html
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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Out of curiosity...is there anyone who would argue I should keep my '03 VIII instead of getting a X? I don't see ANY reason on earth to keep it...
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by machron1
Out of curiosity...is there anyone who would argue I should keep my '03 VIII instead of getting a X? I don't see ANY reason on earth to keep it...
Well the cons are:
Cheap @ss paint, Hit or miss gearbox issues, the broken hood latch syndrome.

The pros are:
Everything else.

Its up to you. You bought an 03 so you took a chance on a new model before, why not do it again?
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:42 AM
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Yes Robevo, we all knew this already. Since you seem to know so much. Please provide some datan for me. Since you are questioning my research, what was the other EVO Mivec Motor before the IX? That was the statement I made, so since you are disagreeing with it, tell me what your counter argument is. Also, what was the interior improvements in the IX? The ACD Button? Does that even count? Please enlighten me on this, as I did not see any differences, other then cheaper seats, in the interior.

Now I am not saying that Mitsu didnt do any research when making the IX, but I really felt they focused on increasing the horsepower to be competitive with the STi. If I recall correctly, the IX lost out to the STi in road tests and definitely did not win the Car of the Year awards that the VIII got.
You make some correct points as well as some incorrect ones. Correct, there was no other mivec engined Evo before the IX. But the concept obviously has been around in Japan for years.... FTO and such. The IX seats and overall interior tone/color are better than the 8, no denying that one. But overall, it was still just as cheap. I felt they focused on making a damn solid engine and tranny package. I think SBLVRO already corrected your last statement.

And whats with this price argument? 03 and 04 Evos were between 29K and 50k+ including markups. 05 Evos were between 29K and 36K. 06s were between 29k and 38k but dropped to 25k-33k when Southcoast started dealing. So if anything, the 9s were the best buy of the CT9a platform. I know I used Southcoast's price printout to get a dealer in RI to sell me my SE for invoice back in Sept. 06 when they first arrived. No haggling. I still think the X is the best US Evo yet.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PDXEvo
Yes Robevo, we all knew this already. Since you seem to know so much. Please provide some datan for me. Since you are questioning my research, what was the other EVO Mivec Motor before the IX? That was the statement I made, so since you are disagreeing with it, tell me what your counter argument is. Also, what was the interior improvements in the IX? The ACD Button? Does that even count? Please enlighten me on this, as I did not see any differences, other then cheaper seats, in the interior.

Now I am not saying that Mitsu didnt do any research when making the IX, but I really felt they focused on increasing the horsepower to be competitive with the STi. If I recall correctly, the IX lost out to the STi in road tests and definitely did not win the Car of the Year awards that the VIII got.
" The mivec engine is exist long before the IX ,so the IX is not a test for the MIVEC engine"
this is what i said... i never said it was an evo tecnology . Dont try to make yourself looking better.So i will help you with the mivec...Since its wasn't evo related before really, the first MIVEC engine came alive in production 1993. the lancer,mirage,FTO have them in japan...

so you can do your search:

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.za/f...istory/GDI.asp

http://www.techretriever.org/topics/...9uv0pj2jt5fu77

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/cor...006/18e_09.pdf

the others just shows your lack of knowlidge about evo's. Wich is fine, untill you try to give opinion about them.

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
" The mivec engine is exist long before the IX ,so the IX is not a test for the MIVEC engine"
this is what i said... i never said it was an evo tecnology . Dont try to make yourself looking better.So i will help you with the mivec...Since its wasn't evo related before really, the first MIVEC engine came alive in production 1993. the lancer,mirage,FTO have them in japan...
PDXEvo was clear enough above. I knew what he was saying but it seems you missed it. He was saying the IX was a test platform or road going prototype for the mivec technology in Evos. Thats what he meant. He was clear and I'm sure he knew about the other vehicles in Japan that have had the technology for over a decade. Slinging mud and insults arent necessary to get your point accross.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by NoTec
PDXEvo was clear enough above. I knew what he was saying but it seems you missed it. He was saying the IX was a test platform or road going prototype for the mivec technology in Evos. Thats what he meant. He was clear and I'm sure he knew about the other vehicles in Japan that have had the technology for over a decade. Slinging mud and insults arent necessary to get your point accross.
what is insults me when somebody make a comment about mine, and has no knowlidge behind it, but still find me wrong. If you think i'm wrong /wich is common/ at least try to back up what you say.
Also your buddy started remember?
"Yes Robevo, we all knew this already. Since you seem to know so much. Please provide some datan for me. "

this is what he said if you don't remember:

"The IX was a test platform for MIVEC, and built on the VIII body and frame. "
so probably you missed it. No hard feelings.

Originally Posted by PDXEvo
The IX was a test platform for MIVEC, and built on the VIII body and frame. So I wouldnt agree that it has a lot of research on it. It was the first MIVEC motor on the Evo series in the US, and it still ran slower then the VI. The problem for me, and this is just my opinion based on what I want out of a car, the IX is too noisy, doesnt ride smooth, and makes my bones hurt. I also didnt like the fact that the interior wasnt improved on at all over the VIII, and definitely did NOT warrant the additional money. The VIII was worth every penny under 30k, but the IX did not warrant its price tag at all. This is where the X supersedes the IX in every way. Now you have an interior thats upgraded, NAV system, better sound system, better sound deadening, and a much smoother ride with no sacrifice to handling. In fact, the handling is better. The IX cant even compare to the upgrades given over the previous generation with the increased price tag.

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 05:49 AM
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what is insults me when somebody make a comment about mine, and has no knowlidge behind it, but still find me wrong. If you think i'm wrong /wich is common/ at least try to back up what you say.
Also your buddy started remember?
"Yes Robevo, we all knew this already. Since you seem to know so much. Please provide some datan for me. "

this is what he said if you don't remember:

"The IX was a test platform for MIVEC, and built on the VIII body and frame. "
so probably you missed it. No hard feelings.
I didnt miss what he said, but if you read the first part of his 3rd sentence, he clarified and added to the first. Thats what you seem to have missed. Thes second part of his 3rd sentence is wrong though in that quote.

Ok fine, he dared you to prove him wrong. You countered with a "Don't try to make yourself look better...." followed by a bunch of tech info that the man already knew. Be the bigger man. Just try to move on and keep this thread about Evo comparisons. It's all good and no hard feelings.

And PDXEvo is not my buddy. I don't know the guy.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by machron1
Out of curiosity...is there anyone who would argue I should keep my '03 VIII instead of getting a X? I don't see ANY reason on earth to keep it...
Go drive one, if you haven't already. There is no technical reason to keep your VIII over an X ... unless you're planning on doing the 1000whp mod.

Personally I test drove one and did not like it as much as my VIII (modded) or my buddy's IX (stock) ... that is a purely subjective opinion, though.

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 06:05 AM
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oke my fault.
"The IX was a test platform for MIVEC, and built on the VIII body and frame. So I wouldnt agree that it has a lot of research on it. It was the first MIVEC motor on the Evo series in the US, and it still ran slower then the VI. "

Where is that part what i'm missing in the first 3 sentence? i didn even want to go into the first 3...
well about the evo comparision. between the VIII and IX he is right too. The ix have no improvements about interior + pluss machanical. matter a fact
"The IX cant even compare to the upgrades given over the previous generation with the increased price tag."
"I also didnt like the fact that the interior wasnt improved on at all over the VIII, and definitely did NOT warrant the additional money. The VIII was worth every penny under 30k, but the IX did not warrant its price tag at all. "
"The IX cant even compare to the upgrades given over the previous generation with the increased price tag"

i just try to keep the facts straight.... But you can prove me wrong. And pls do with back ups , i like to read them. I'm not so much into the " i'm telling you" since i dont know the person.

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 06:06 AM
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[QUOTE=Ludikraut;5307000]Go drive one, if you haven't already. There is no technical reason to keep your VIII over an X ... unless you're planning on doing the 1000whp mod.



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You will be much happyer in the X .
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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As stated in my original post, and something you keep leaving out Rob, but has a lot of relevance on the topic you are discussing now is this:
"The problem for me, and this is just my opinion based on what I want out of a car"

Like I said, its MY OPINION, on the topics of interior, ride quality, etc. I went and compared the VIII and IX, again, last night, and I still do not see an upgrade in the interior. Maybe Im missing something, so please, feel free to tell us, in your opinion, whats better.

And no, I didnt personally attack you. I purposely requested that you give information, but you didnt give anything useful over what we already knew. As NoTec pointed out, the discussion is on the US Evo IX MIVEC, not some other car in Japan. So please stick to this point, and not others.

You can personally attack me all you want, and say I dont know anything about Evo's, I dont really care. But at least offer up something thats educational in the process. Thats all I ask. And I still stick to my statement that the IX was the full out test platform for the MIVEC IX in the US. This has been stated to me several times by MMNA reps at several events I have attended, including SEMA, and several auto shows. Now, I dont have any thing that can prove this to be true, in fact, its even probable that the reps were feeding me a line as well. I cant prove this, so please, prove it otherwise. I think you will find this challenging. And dont just put links up about MIVEC and other useless data, make sure it has relevance to the topic, which is:
MIVEC, Evo IX, Test Platform, Future generation. I say future generation, because I also got feedback that the IX was supposed to have the 4B11 motor in it, but the motor just wasnt ready yet, so they built the IX as we see it today. Can I prove this? Nope, not really, just more material from Auto Shows and MMNA reps.

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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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It's all cool sometimes power and all that aint as importanat as is to others.... Bottom line the car looks great, handles great and is FUN( key word ) to drive. The potentials are there... And as you said it wont happen over night. No disrespect... but quick story, took my X to the local weekend hang out, my car was a bigg attention grabber, You remind me of the little kid who just had a baby sister.... We still love you, but the truth is you aint the center of attention.... but hey , what ever helps you sleep at night
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by acme20000
It's all cool sometimes power and all that aint as importanat as is to others.... Bottom line the car looks great, handles great and is FUN( key word ) to drive. The potentials are there... And as you said it wont happen over night. No disrespect... but quick story, took my X to the local weekend hang out, my car was a bigg attention grabber, You remind me of the little kid who just had a baby sister.... We still love you, but the truth is you aint the center of attention.... but hey , what ever helps you sleep at night
Everyone gets their turn.

When the Ralliart, GT-R, 09 Camaro, new M3, etc.. come out - the X won't be the new kid on the block anymore either..
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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I was done at the grand opening of PIR last night, and as I drove past a line of Ferrari's and Porsche's, I noticed every single one of the guys that owned those cars was staring at me driving by It was kind of a good feeling. This body sure demands attention with its aggressive looks.
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