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corvetteconti.com sells them for a little over invoice. Also check on kerbeck.com
Being able to get a Corvette ZO6 for a little over invoice it will hurt the GTR sales. In theory the GTR suppose to be the $hit, it suppose to marginally outedge the Z06 but have you guys seen the numbers on the z06?
Nurburgring in 7:40
0-60 3.7s
0-100 7.5 s
top speed 198 electronically governed
1.01 lateral G
107ft braking 60-0 etc, etc
Basically I am saying that the z06 set the standards very high already for a reasonable price. The GTR suppose to match that or even improve it but again look at the price. As we speak the GTR with the current market can not compite dollar per dollar against the Z06.
If they were to sell the GTR at MSRP then the competition will be on, fortunately for Chevrolet and unfortunately for the Nissan GTR the sales advantage is heavily inclined towrads the Z06.
Carlos
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There are a couple of dealers that will take up to $8000 off the MSRP on loaded Z06s.
corvetteconti.com sells them for a little over invoice. Also check on kerbeck.com
Being able to get a Corvette ZO6 for a little over invoice it will hurt the GTR sales. In theory the GTR suppose to be the $hit, it suppose to marginally outedge the Z06 but have you guys seen the numbers on the z06?
Nurburgring in 7:40
0-60 3.7s
0-100 7.5 s
top speed 198 electronically governed
1.01 lateral G
107ft braking 60-0 etc, etc
Basically I am saying that the z06 set the standards very high already for a reasonable price. The GTR suppose to match that or even improve it but again look at the price. As we speak the GTR with the current market can not compite dollar per dollar against the Z06.
If they were to sell the GTR at MSRP then the competition will be on, fortunately for Chevrolet and unfortunately for the Nissan GTR the sales advantage is heavily inclined towrads the Z06.
Carlos
corvetteconti.com sells them for a little over invoice. Also check on kerbeck.com
Being able to get a Corvette ZO6 for a little over invoice it will hurt the GTR sales. In theory the GTR suppose to be the $hit, it suppose to marginally outedge the Z06 but have you guys seen the numbers on the z06?
Nurburgring in 7:40
0-60 3.7s
0-100 7.5 s
top speed 198 electronically governed
1.01 lateral G
107ft braking 60-0 etc, etc
Basically I am saying that the z06 set the standards very high already for a reasonable price. The GTR suppose to match that or even improve it but again look at the price. As we speak the GTR with the current market can not compite dollar per dollar against the Z06.
If they were to sell the GTR at MSRP then the competition will be on, fortunately for Chevrolet and unfortunately for the Nissan GTR the sales advantage is heavily inclined towrads the Z06.
Carlos
I think you'll see GTRs at MSRP at some point, perhaps 7-8 months after the first cars arrive. Most high-performance cars get markups (M3, 911 Turbo and even Evos) when they first hit the markets. Whatever advantages Z06 will have in terms of pricing won't be there very long. But I expect Chevy to make some minor changes to the Corvettes/Z06 soon.
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There are a couple of dealers that will take up to $8000 off the MSRP on loaded Z06s.
corvetteconti.com sells them for a little over invoice. Also check on kerbeck.com
Being able to get a Corvette ZO6 for a little over invoice it will hurt the GTR sales. In theory the GTR suppose to be the $hit, it suppose to marginally outedge the Z06 but have you guys seen the numbers on the z06?
Nurburgring in 7:40
0-60 3.7s
0-100 7.5 s
top speed 198 electronically governed
1.01 lateral G
107ft braking 60-0 etc, etc
Basically I am saying that the z06 set the standards very high already for a reasonable price. The GTR suppose to match that or even improve it but again look at the price. As we speak the GTR with the current market can not compite dollar per dollar against the Z06.
If they were to sell the GTR at MSRP then the competition will be on, fortunately for Chevrolet and unfortunately for the Nissan GTR the sales advantage is heavily inclined towrads the Z06.
Carlos
corvetteconti.com sells them for a little over invoice. Also check on kerbeck.com
Being able to get a Corvette ZO6 for a little over invoice it will hurt the GTR sales. In theory the GTR suppose to be the $hit, it suppose to marginally outedge the Z06 but have you guys seen the numbers on the z06?
Nurburgring in 7:40
0-60 3.7s
0-100 7.5 s
top speed 198 electronically governed
1.01 lateral G
107ft braking 60-0 etc, etc
Basically I am saying that the z06 set the standards very high already for a reasonable price. The GTR suppose to match that or even improve it but again look at the price. As we speak the GTR with the current market can not compite dollar per dollar against the Z06.
If they were to sell the GTR at MSRP then the competition will be on, fortunately for Chevrolet and unfortunately for the Nissan GTR the sales advantage is heavily inclined towrads the Z06.
Carlos
But the GTR does have a backseat, AWD, a nicer interior and a brand with a better reputation for build quality. And the new GTR ran a 7:38 at the Nurburgring if I remember right.
I think you'll see GTRs at MSRP at some point, perhaps 7-8 months after the first cars arrive. Most high-performance cars get markups (M3, 911 Turbo and even Evos) when they first hit the markets. Whatever advantages Z06 will have in terms of pricing won't be there very long. But I expect Chevy to make some minor changes to the Corvettes/Z06 soon.
I think you'll see GTRs at MSRP at some point, perhaps 7-8 months after the first cars arrive. Most high-performance cars get markups (M3, 911 Turbo and even Evos) when they first hit the markets. Whatever advantages Z06 will have in terms of pricing won't be there very long. But I expect Chevy to make some minor changes to the Corvettes/Z06 soon.
As far is the AWD, yes it is nice to have AWD in a car, I have had 9 sports AWD cars and it is nice to be in control of your traction but having a set of 325'/19" in the back with a good Rear LSD and a weight distribiuton of 49.3%/50.7 % front to rear weight bias without a driver, which changes to a 49.7% front, 50.3% rear weight bias with a 180 pound driver in it. That makes it almost perfect in my book.
As per the interior, I need to see the GTR interior in person but the 08 vette does not look that bad at all. Remember again, my first choice was the GTR and second choice was the Z06 but due to marketing pricing and new upgrades made on the 2008 Z06 things changed around.
One of the most important factors in a successful performance car is its weight, in fact the power to weight ratio is to me a standard to be look at when buying a sports car. The weight alone will influence the cornering, braking, acceleration and even gas mileage(other factors will also make a diference like brakes, tires, gearing,aerodynamics, etc).
Botton line, the Z06 is very light in weight and any increase in power will make a favorable advantage, stock is 6.2lbs per hp and that is a heck of an achievement.
Carlos
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FYI, Carlos, auto magazines are getting better gas mileage with the Z than the 335. The best combined gas mileage that I've seen in a 335i is 16 mpg
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Cogracts Carlos and welcome to the club! Car looks great in Red!
I would say you are right on about getting used to drivng it stock for a while.
A few suggestions from myself and a whole bunch of guys over on the Corvettefourm Z06 section about a few things to maintain on your new Z06 that needs attention.
1. If you haven't joined the stie already then I would do that asap and read about the Z06 and all the little things about maintaining and driving your Z. It isn't that hard to maintain but this way you won't make any mistakes that you are not aware of as a new owner and the dealer may not know or tell you.
2. After 500 miles have the Service Dept check your axle nuts and they should be at 16 lb's FT. On some cars they come loose I have mine checked about every 2000 miles...so far no issues.
3. A very important thing is to check your clutch fluid often. The fluid will get blk and it needs to stay clear. Search the thread that Ranger posted on this issue on the site it is the best step by step of how to keep your clutch in the best condition as this is a weak spot on the Z as you will find out. It is easy!! BTW he is the guy that ran the 10:85 on a stock Z06 with just DR's and his clutch is still the original one from the factory!!
I would look at some other options as far as mods go.
The first thing is find a good tuner with a dyno in your area who uses HP tuners! It is the best way. Don't go with a preadator tune they suck!! Most guys on the site will confirm that.
Do your mods step by step and watch your gains. It is more fun that way.
First mods are usually Intake and Dyno tune!! look on the site and find a high perfomace shop in your area that does Vettes. I know there is a good shop I just can't remember their name.
First off the halltech Killer Bee is the best intake out there and I wouldn't go with anything else. Jim hall is the best to work with and he is right near Katech and they use his intakes on all their builds. They have color matched ones now! Go to his web site.
Next I would go with Ported TB and intake and also install a Vette - Air! From Quality Motorsports/Vette - Air in Dallas TX. Google Vette - Air and talk to Carlos he is a great guy ( funny as hell ) and very infomative. He is also the guy that ran a 9:80 @ 140mph with only a Intake a tune and a 100 dry shot! His screen name on the Vette forum is MYHARDTOP you can't miss him. They have a killer QM600 cam that is the hottest one out there right now. Guys are making 600rwhp with this cam and AMR Headers....Ah headers that is the great debate which one is best! I think that it all depends on what your planning to do with the car. Track or drag or a little of both. American Racing headers for Drag racing as most would agree and probably the best all around header. LG or Kooks if your planing on tracking the car in some HPDE's. All the three I mentioned are good...stay away form the rest. I'm going with ARH on mine and Carlos QM 600 cam. Already did everything else I mentioned above. BTW I would stay with the Stock Exhaust as you don't see very little gain over stock. For now just unplug the little chip in the floor and it will stay open all the time. If and when you put in a Header and cam package and you still want it louder then I would look at an after market exhaust. I like Borlas cause there light...but very loud ..BB fusion's cause they have a flap just like stock. Open they are loud and closed they are fairly quiet. Corsas seem to be the most popular cause they cause no Drone! Bassani's are used on more Mustangs than Vettes but to each his own.
Car is so much faster with some simple bolt ons. I wouldn't go with that package from LPE! It is a good one but it doesn't make the power that you could get for less money! The cam is kinda mild. I have 2 local guys that have it. In fact I just talked to LPE and they are coming out with a more aggressive cam like the QM600but he couldn't give me a time or date yet. LG has a GX 3 and 4 that are laying down some good numbers also.
BTW your gas milage will not go down as much as you think beleive me I can't even notice a difference in mine.
Next mod is to port the heads but I would wait on that for a while if I were you.
Also a note there is a new Z06 specfic clutch coming out in late March ( just talked to Evan ) from Exedy. They have been tested on some TT 1000+hp Vettes and he said it drives almost like stock so I'm waiting on that one for sure.
It is great that your dealer is a mod -friendly one! I have the same situation here1 Like yours they are always wanting me to do more things to my car
They also install the LPE package but have to get the car tuned at a local shop that works on Corvettes and they are very good. I'm very lucky to have them close by.
Well sorry for the long post but I thought I could help!! PM me if you like. BTW my screen name on the Corvetteforum is " Wanderer Z06" . Also there are 3 sites for Corvettes that are good ones but just like Evom is the biggest for Evos so is the http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zeromain the biggest and most active in the Corvette world. You probably already knew this but thought I'd give you a heads up.
I know your going to love the car the more you drive it and that is a true sign of a very good car.
The best of luck with your new Z!
I would say you are right on about getting used to drivng it stock for a while.
A few suggestions from myself and a whole bunch of guys over on the Corvettefourm Z06 section about a few things to maintain on your new Z06 that needs attention.
1. If you haven't joined the stie already then I would do that asap and read about the Z06 and all the little things about maintaining and driving your Z. It isn't that hard to maintain but this way you won't make any mistakes that you are not aware of as a new owner and the dealer may not know or tell you.
2. After 500 miles have the Service Dept check your axle nuts and they should be at 16 lb's FT. On some cars they come loose I have mine checked about every 2000 miles...so far no issues.
3. A very important thing is to check your clutch fluid often. The fluid will get blk and it needs to stay clear. Search the thread that Ranger posted on this issue on the site it is the best step by step of how to keep your clutch in the best condition as this is a weak spot on the Z as you will find out. It is easy!! BTW he is the guy that ran the 10:85 on a stock Z06 with just DR's and his clutch is still the original one from the factory!!
I would look at some other options as far as mods go.
The first thing is find a good tuner with a dyno in your area who uses HP tuners! It is the best way. Don't go with a preadator tune they suck!! Most guys on the site will confirm that.
Do your mods step by step and watch your gains. It is more fun that way.
First mods are usually Intake and Dyno tune!! look on the site and find a high perfomace shop in your area that does Vettes. I know there is a good shop I just can't remember their name.
First off the halltech Killer Bee is the best intake out there and I wouldn't go with anything else. Jim hall is the best to work with and he is right near Katech and they use his intakes on all their builds. They have color matched ones now! Go to his web site.
Next I would go with Ported TB and intake and also install a Vette - Air! From Quality Motorsports/Vette - Air in Dallas TX. Google Vette - Air and talk to Carlos he is a great guy ( funny as hell ) and very infomative. He is also the guy that ran a 9:80 @ 140mph with only a Intake a tune and a 100 dry shot! His screen name on the Vette forum is MYHARDTOP you can't miss him. They have a killer QM600 cam that is the hottest one out there right now. Guys are making 600rwhp with this cam and AMR Headers....Ah headers that is the great debate which one is best! I think that it all depends on what your planning to do with the car. Track or drag or a little of both. American Racing headers for Drag racing as most would agree and probably the best all around header. LG or Kooks if your planing on tracking the car in some HPDE's. All the three I mentioned are good...stay away form the rest. I'm going with ARH on mine and Carlos QM 600 cam. Already did everything else I mentioned above. BTW I would stay with the Stock Exhaust as you don't see very little gain over stock. For now just unplug the little chip in the floor and it will stay open all the time. If and when you put in a Header and cam package and you still want it louder then I would look at an after market exhaust. I like Borlas cause there light...but very loud ..BB fusion's cause they have a flap just like stock. Open they are loud and closed they are fairly quiet. Corsas seem to be the most popular cause they cause no Drone! Bassani's are used on more Mustangs than Vettes but to each his own.
Car is so much faster with some simple bolt ons. I wouldn't go with that package from LPE! It is a good one but it doesn't make the power that you could get for less money! The cam is kinda mild. I have 2 local guys that have it. In fact I just talked to LPE and they are coming out with a more aggressive cam like the QM600but he couldn't give me a time or date yet. LG has a GX 3 and 4 that are laying down some good numbers also.
BTW your gas milage will not go down as much as you think beleive me I can't even notice a difference in mine.
Next mod is to port the heads but I would wait on that for a while if I were you.
Also a note there is a new Z06 specfic clutch coming out in late March ( just talked to Evan ) from Exedy. They have been tested on some TT 1000+hp Vettes and he said it drives almost like stock so I'm waiting on that one for sure.
It is great that your dealer is a mod -friendly one! I have the same situation here1 Like yours they are always wanting me to do more things to my car
They also install the LPE package but have to get the car tuned at a local shop that works on Corvettes and they are very good. I'm very lucky to have them close by.Well sorry for the long post but I thought I could help!! PM me if you like. BTW my screen name on the Corvetteforum is " Wanderer Z06" . Also there are 3 sites for Corvettes that are good ones but just like Evom is the biggest for Evos so is the http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zeromain the biggest and most active in the Corvette world. You probably already knew this but thought I'd give you a heads up.
I know your going to love the car the more you drive it and that is a true sign of a very good car.
The best of luck with your new Z!
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Good point! Put some R componds on the Z06 and I think most would agree that it would be out in front of the GT-R especially on a track with some long straights on it.
Sorry for the lat response. I have been very busy selling my gazillion garage parts sale and I haven't read your post before. Fortunately I already have a mod spending budget and I read your post so I will take advantage of the usefull information you provided.
I am already itchy for modding the Z06 and I might take advantage of the local dealer and their unique warranty system, basically I just need to order the parts through them and they will install then plus it will be recorded on the receipt which means that I don't have to argue any warranty claims.
The clutch on this car is smelly as hell, if you over rev it even to go over the garge ramp the whole car stink like asbestos...
I think I am going to do the basic mods now:header,exhaust,intake and tune and see how I can handle the power.
Carlos