400-500hp dd evo or sti?
not ruffling my feathers, i welcome different opinions. the more info the better for the op. 
in all fairness, my car was far from optimized. if i had cams and springs i could have ran it out to 8,500. it was a simple, cheap setup. at the level i was at an evo wouldnt be any cheaper at all.
$3,500 into the longblock (evo longblock would be same, actually more with cams)
$1,100 fmic (evo would need core and piping for same price)
$700 clutch (evo is $1,200)
turbo kit was $3k (fp black is what, $2,500 and you still need o2 housing, downpipe, etc)
injectors, fuel system, catback and tune are a wash
stock sti drivetrain is good stock (evo will need a t case build at min)
in the end, the sti is more fun (slower at the dragstrip though) and the evo is probably going to be more reliable. im aiming for over 700whp on my evo, i wouldnt even attempt it with an sti, but for around 500whp, they are both great choices.
in all fairness, my car was far from optimized. if i had cams and springs i could have ran it out to 8,500. it was a simple, cheap setup. at the level i was at an evo wouldnt be any cheaper at all.
$3,500 into the longblock (evo longblock would be same, actually more with cams)
$1,100 fmic (evo would need core and piping for same price)
$700 clutch (evo is $1,200)
turbo kit was $3k (fp black is what, $2,500 and you still need o2 housing, downpipe, etc)
injectors, fuel system, catback and tune are a wash
stock sti drivetrain is good stock (evo will need a t case build at min)
in the end, the sti is more fun (slower at the dragstrip though) and the evo is probably going to be more reliable. im aiming for over 700whp on my evo, i wouldnt even attempt it with an sti, but for around 500whp, they are both great choices.
The way I see it, pardon me N20 I dont mean to ruffle feathers, is having owned both if I had a 2.5L with 35R that spooled at 5k and was done at 7500 I would be chapped. For the amount you had into that let's compare a HTA Green car on stock motor with S2s and a Magnus on pumpgas-
I have a friend who blew his motor and trans in 3 weeks ...it was 06 sti bone stock. The only problem I had with my evo was electrical because its early 03 and clutch but what stock clutch is good ...
i guess if you want 500whp and are going to beat the **** out of it and want as little hassle as possible, get the evo. my sti never broke a single part, but i logged often and played with my tune a lot.
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its so close of a car that its so impossible to make a decision, i like the fun aspect and style of the sti, the power and handling aspect of the evo, i think im just going to think about it for a while, i dont want to get one the car and not like it...
I've owned both and modded both. For the power level you are wanting I highly recommend the Evo over the STI. The Evo is:
cheaper to mod
easier to work on
makes more power dollar for dollar
has a much better motor to withstand abuse
tranny rebuilds on an Evo are cheaper than STI motor rebuilds
I could go on and on...
I didn't find the STI that much more daily driver friendly other than the 6 speed tranny. The ride is bouncy and the seats aren't that comfortable compared to Evo Recaros.
You don't need a Cobb Accessport with the Evo. We have cheap tuning software in Ecuflash the evoscan that work great for tuning the Evo way past the 1000whp mark.
Cobb works great with the STI but at the HP levels you are wanting you would need to buy Cobb then pay for a professional tune. Tuning alone is going to cost you a ton vs. what it would on the Evo. You just need to buy a taxtrix cable and you are good to go. Plus owning an Evo will allow you to learn more about the tuning process while Cobb Accessport users tend to know very little since they are removed from it.
I'm still very active on the STI forums and if I could own both I would, but the Evo is just a better platform for the kind of power you are wanting. If you were wanting nothing more than a little over 300whp then I would say its a toss up.
cheaper to mod
easier to work on
makes more power dollar for dollar
has a much better motor to withstand abuse
tranny rebuilds on an Evo are cheaper than STI motor rebuilds
I could go on and on...
I didn't find the STI that much more daily driver friendly other than the 6 speed tranny. The ride is bouncy and the seats aren't that comfortable compared to Evo Recaros.
You don't need a Cobb Accessport with the Evo. We have cheap tuning software in Ecuflash the evoscan that work great for tuning the Evo way past the 1000whp mark.
Cobb works great with the STI but at the HP levels you are wanting you would need to buy Cobb then pay for a professional tune. Tuning alone is going to cost you a ton vs. what it would on the Evo. You just need to buy a taxtrix cable and you are good to go. Plus owning an Evo will allow you to learn more about the tuning process while Cobb Accessport users tend to know very little since they are removed from it.
I'm still very active on the STI forums and if I could own both I would, but the Evo is just a better platform for the kind of power you are wanting. If you were wanting nothing more than a little over 300whp then I would say its a toss up.
I've owned both and modded both. For the power level you are wanting I highly recommend the Evo over the STI. The Evo is:
cheaper to mod
easier to work on
makes more power dollar for dollar
has a much better motor to withstand abuse
tranny rebuilds on an Evo are cheaper than STI motor rebuilds
I could go on and on...
I didn't find the STI that much more daily driver friendly other than the 6 speed tranny. The ride is bouncy and the seats aren't that comfortable compared to Evo Recaros.
You don't need a Cobb Accessport with the Evo. We have cheap tuning software in Ecuflash the evoscan that work great for tuning the Evo way past the 1000whp mark.
Cobb works great with the STI but at the HP levels you are wanting you would need to buy Cobb then pay for a professional tune. Tuning alone is going to cost you a ton vs. what it would on the Evo. You just need to buy a taxtrix cable and you are good to go. Plus owning an Evo will allow you to learn more about the tuning process while Cobb Accessport users tend to know very little since they are removed from it.
I'm still very active on the STI forums and if I could own both I would, but the Evo is just a better platform for the kind of power you are wanting. If you were wanting nothing more than a little over 300whp then I would say its a toss up.
cheaper to mod
easier to work on
makes more power dollar for dollar
has a much better motor to withstand abuse
tranny rebuilds on an Evo are cheaper than STI motor rebuilds
I could go on and on...
I didn't find the STI that much more daily driver friendly other than the 6 speed tranny. The ride is bouncy and the seats aren't that comfortable compared to Evo Recaros.
You don't need a Cobb Accessport with the Evo. We have cheap tuning software in Ecuflash the evoscan that work great for tuning the Evo way past the 1000whp mark.
Cobb works great with the STI but at the HP levels you are wanting you would need to buy Cobb then pay for a professional tune. Tuning alone is going to cost you a ton vs. what it would on the Evo. You just need to buy a taxtrix cable and you are good to go. Plus owning an Evo will allow you to learn more about the tuning process while Cobb Accessport users tend to know very little since they are removed from it.
I'm still very active on the STI forums and if I could own both I would, but the Evo is just a better platform for the kind of power you are wanting. If you were wanting nothing more than a little over 300whp then I would say its a toss up.
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i think im just going to do this, wait on it, maybe if i can get a 2006 or 2007 built sti around 400hp for cheap ill get one, or if i see a nice 2006 evo ix i can get a good deal on ill get one, i mean, only live once
Yes they do but its not as well defined. If you are wanting larger turbo setup with large injectors and E85 Cobb is the way to go.
You don't need to build an Evo motor to handle 500+ whp.
You don't need to upgrade to a larger than Evo 9 turbo for 400whp. If you get a somthing like and FP Black you can make well over 600whp. At least you are getting your moneys worth.
You don't need a $1000+ clutch, that's preference.
You don't need to build an Evo motor to handle 500+ whp.
You don't need to upgrade to a larger than Evo 9 turbo for 400whp. If you get a somthing like and FP Black you can make well over 600whp. At least you are getting your moneys worth.
You don't need a $1000+ clutch, that's preference.
Last edited by evilempire76; Jan 23, 2012 at 06:41 PM.
not ruffling my feathers, i welcome different opinions. the more info the better for the op.
in all fairness, my car was far from optimized. if i had cams and springs i could have ran it out to 8,500. it was a simple, cheap setup. at the level i was at an evo wouldnt be any cheaper at all.
$3,500 into the longblock (evo longblock would be same, actually more with cams)
$1,100 fmic (evo would need core and piping for same price)
$700 clutch (evo is $1,200)
turbo kit was $3k (fp black is what, $2,500 and you still need o2 housing, downpipe, etc)
injectors, fuel system, catback and tune are a wash
stock sti drivetrain is good stock (evo will need a t case build at min)
in the end, the sti is more fun (slower at the dragstrip though) and the evo is probably going to be more reliable. im aiming for over 700whp on my evo, i wouldnt even attempt it with an sti, but for around 500whp, they are both great choices.
in all fairness, my car was far from optimized. if i had cams and springs i could have ran it out to 8,500. it was a simple, cheap setup. at the level i was at an evo wouldnt be any cheaper at all.
$3,500 into the longblock (evo longblock would be same, actually more with cams)
$1,100 fmic (evo would need core and piping for same price)
$700 clutch (evo is $1,200)
turbo kit was $3k (fp black is what, $2,500 and you still need o2 housing, downpipe, etc)
injectors, fuel system, catback and tune are a wash
stock sti drivetrain is good stock (evo will need a t case build at min)
in the end, the sti is more fun (slower at the dragstrip though) and the evo is probably going to be more reliable. im aiming for over 700whp on my evo, i wouldnt even attempt it with an sti, but for around 500whp, they are both great choices.