Evo X vs GT500
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Before the purchase of my new EVO X, one of the cars i considered was the BOSS 302. The price difference was really negligible, and the guy i know who had one said its a great DD as well as a track car. I might still get one, but a couple of years down the road.
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AMS TCX package, Nuff' said. And you can't really compare these two cars. I could understand FQ400 vs GT500. But a car heavily modded from the factory vs just a performance car. Lets compare my Ralliart to a Lancer GTS while we're at it
Evo for a daily, never had more confidence in any other vehicle in rain or snow. I used to own a eaton supercharged mustang gt so i can appreciate the roots blower whine, sounds better than a turbo car to me. Weekend car on a great day, rear wheel drive high hp car for the win, sliding around corners and stomping on straights, daily as mentioned before the evo will be enjoyable in any weather and great fun in all. The evo is also the best handling car that ive ever driven or owned, i had bilstiens, ford racing springs, and caster/camber plates on my mustang and it didnt come close to the evo's stock suspension. i have driven the new mustangs and they have come a long way but still are not razon sharp like the evo. I would love to add a weekend car to the garage some day, i would be looking at used gtrs and vettes, zo6s. I would prob take a c6 or c6 zo6 over the new gt500 or gtr for a fun weekend car. Used c6s can be had for 30k, zo6s 50k, gtrs 60k. I have been in a few exotics, lots of mustangs, i like the vettes for weekend performance bargains and evos for daily driver bargains. Sorry to throw in other cars but you had mentioned really wanting a zo6, which i think is a better bargain.
Last edited by doghead; Dec 24, 2012 at 01:20 PM.
I'm curious as to know exactly how many people commenting on this thread has actually drivin the new Mustangs. I for one actually come from that world, just traded my 2012 5.0 for a more family friendly (and curb gripping EVO X) and I can tell you that there are several cons ( as well as pros) in regards to performance.
In regards to handling, while it did pull a .97 on the skid pad (.98 for the Shelby) there is a temendous amount of oversteer (For all models), during hard cornering it feels like its getting away from you, promotes a lack of confidence in the abilities of this vehicle. After noticing this I: swapped the springs, new LCAs, new rear UCA, Adj PHP, PHB Brace, and a larger/stiffer sway in the rear to eliminate the oversteer. Now after the modifications this vehicle handled A LOT better yet the performance I would have hoped to gain was marginal at best. I wouldn't have had an issue taking it for an Auto X event but (in comparison to the EVO its handling was yet again marginal).
Power wise there is really nothing that can touch them. With an intake, tune, and offroad x my car put down 427whp/401tq and the timing above 5k was a little off so the vehicle was capable of more. I would have to agree that in this aspect the vehicle outclasses the EVO hands down. Yet the EVO is also capable of running low 12s high 11s with just a tune and an intake (Shelby runs 11s factory). Can't beat that with a stick.
Is it practical, depends on your needs. I personally have two kids and it took me 30 minutes to get the kids out of the car and swap the car seats into the EVO for a test drive (bummer, had the guy at the Dealership laughing along with a couple of on lookers). Plenty of shoulder room and comfortable seats (rear seat has no use except to throw your jacket or trash back there). The trunk space (as compared to the EVO X) is slightly larger yet the opening to the trunk could have been bigger to use its cargo volume to its fullest extent. It really comes down to four doors or two...
Braking, the factory brakes on the Brembo equipped 5.0/BOSS/Shelbys have a great stopping distance ( 60-0 107ft ). That being said while it stops well continued use of the system does in fact show fade due to the vehicle only being quiped with Brembos in the front (Due to the use of a solid rear axle the fixed Brembo brakes would not have worked so Ford opted for the floating caliper). The rear brakes on this car cannot keep up when driving, lets say, sprinting around a mountain or on an Auto X course. However for daily driving the brakes are wonderful.
The new Shelby is a blast to drive along with the new 5.0s but exactly how fast do you need a street car. I enjoyed the power numbers I put down with my 5.0 but I couldn't have fun with the car on the street. It just got to the point where it wasn't safe, downshifting gears during city driving results in the loss of traction ( for example downshifting into third running 60-65 mph the vehilce would cut sideways)...not to say I couldn't drive it but it did get annoying knowing that I had all this power I couldn't use. Rainy days, as I've said before in my previous post, are nightmares. I couldn't imagine driving a Shelby in the rain, and with the Ice we get down here I'd be afraid to travel to work. Another reason I opted for AWD, for safety and knowing that whatever power I decide to make I can actually use it to its full potential.
Point is that both cars, like others have posted before, have their strengths and weaknesses. EVO X (Large Brembo Brakes, AWD, four doors, lower price tag) '13 Shelby (662bhp, Limited Production by Carroll Shelby, class leading technology)....take your time and read up on the forums (EvolutionM.net and ModdedMustangs.com). If you have the money and the ability to get the Shelby then I would say go for it, but if your concerned over the price tag at all or worried about it being practical then I'd opt for the EVO. They are both nice cars and both of them are limited production vehicles that make you proud to own one.
As far as this thread is concerned, we should be discussing the OPs question not arguing amongst eachother
In regards to handling, while it did pull a .97 on the skid pad (.98 for the Shelby) there is a temendous amount of oversteer (For all models), during hard cornering it feels like its getting away from you, promotes a lack of confidence in the abilities of this vehicle. After noticing this I: swapped the springs, new LCAs, new rear UCA, Adj PHP, PHB Brace, and a larger/stiffer sway in the rear to eliminate the oversteer. Now after the modifications this vehicle handled A LOT better yet the performance I would have hoped to gain was marginal at best. I wouldn't have had an issue taking it for an Auto X event but (in comparison to the EVO its handling was yet again marginal).
Power wise there is really nothing that can touch them. With an intake, tune, and offroad x my car put down 427whp/401tq and the timing above 5k was a little off so the vehicle was capable of more. I would have to agree that in this aspect the vehicle outclasses the EVO hands down. Yet the EVO is also capable of running low 12s high 11s with just a tune and an intake (Shelby runs 11s factory). Can't beat that with a stick.
Is it practical, depends on your needs. I personally have two kids and it took me 30 minutes to get the kids out of the car and swap the car seats into the EVO for a test drive (bummer, had the guy at the Dealership laughing along with a couple of on lookers). Plenty of shoulder room and comfortable seats (rear seat has no use except to throw your jacket or trash back there). The trunk space (as compared to the EVO X) is slightly larger yet the opening to the trunk could have been bigger to use its cargo volume to its fullest extent. It really comes down to four doors or two...
Braking, the factory brakes on the Brembo equipped 5.0/BOSS/Shelbys have a great stopping distance ( 60-0 107ft ). That being said while it stops well continued use of the system does in fact show fade due to the vehicle only being quiped with Brembos in the front (Due to the use of a solid rear axle the fixed Brembo brakes would not have worked so Ford opted for the floating caliper). The rear brakes on this car cannot keep up when driving, lets say, sprinting around a mountain or on an Auto X course. However for daily driving the brakes are wonderful.
The new Shelby is a blast to drive along with the new 5.0s but exactly how fast do you need a street car. I enjoyed the power numbers I put down with my 5.0 but I couldn't have fun with the car on the street. It just got to the point where it wasn't safe, downshifting gears during city driving results in the loss of traction ( for example downshifting into third running 60-65 mph the vehilce would cut sideways)...not to say I couldn't drive it but it did get annoying knowing that I had all this power I couldn't use. Rainy days, as I've said before in my previous post, are nightmares. I couldn't imagine driving a Shelby in the rain, and with the Ice we get down here I'd be afraid to travel to work. Another reason I opted for AWD, for safety and knowing that whatever power I decide to make I can actually use it to its full potential.
Point is that both cars, like others have posted before, have their strengths and weaknesses. EVO X (Large Brembo Brakes, AWD, four doors, lower price tag) '13 Shelby (662bhp, Limited Production by Carroll Shelby, class leading technology)....take your time and read up on the forums (EvolutionM.net and ModdedMustangs.com). If you have the money and the ability to get the Shelby then I would say go for it, but if your concerned over the price tag at all or worried about it being practical then I'd opt for the EVO. They are both nice cars and both of them are limited production vehicles that make you proud to own one.
As far as this thread is concerned, we should be discussing the OPs question not arguing amongst eachother
Thank you for the insightful comment! This is exactly why I went from a power hungry RWD to the EVO. Not to mention the geographical location plays a role (especially in the PNW) when choosing a DD. Seattle averages about ~71 clear sunny days/per year. Couple that with my hobbies of hiking, cross country skiing, surfing and camping... The Evo has never failed to get me safely to those places (and added some fun along the way).
Cheers!
Evo X in the 9's as well...
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I'll let you figure it out
well if I wanted to throw gas into the fire , I could easily say that the ets evo is still cheaper than the vehicle that was posted and so forth..
again nothing to figure out.. we are getting into a pointless discussion.
lets be real, if we start playing the modding game, no one wins.
we are trying to compare 2 very different price point vehicles here.
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the GT500 looks more badass, has a nicer interior (by far), gets 24 mpg even though it makes 662 hp, has monstrous low end torque - if all of those things apply as something you want, go with the GT500. the low end torque will put a smile on your face everytime you touch the gas. i couldn't even imagine choosing an Evo over a GT500... i almost never use the back seats or use the car in the snow (so it doesn't rust), so naturally i don't care about those two things as much (back seats/AWD). as far as traction goes - it isn't that hard to find a wheel/tire combo that hooks up fine.
just look at the torque it makes by 2,000 RPM:
just look at the torque it makes by 2,000 RPM:
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Last edited by BlazinVIII; Dec 24, 2012 at 07:46 PM.
Start getting into modding and you open a whole can of worms that will never end
Still here is fire to your arguement.. the fully built evo is still cheaper than GT500 with basic boltons.
see were we are going with this .. nowhere.
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GT500 if you're after BEASTLY low end power, nicer interior, 24 MPG (amazing for 662 hp), or an evo if you need/want AWD, more legroom, slightly better handling. either car is a good choice..
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Why is this even a thread? The GT500 is on an entirely different level than the EVO in every way but those that favor traction (snow, gravel, dirt, sand). We have 2 local guys that are running close to 800whp with under $2k in mods, and the car was just realeased. The interior is absolutely STUNNING (I never thought I'd say this about an American muscle car), and the car looks and sounds like pure evil (and gets similar MPG's to "x's").
The GT500 is cross shopped with Vettes, GTR's, and even Vipers.
As a proud owner of an EVO, this type of thread makes me think of M3 owners talking down about the GT-R.
The GT500 is cross shopped with Vettes, GTR's, and even Vipers.
As a proud owner of an EVO, this type of thread makes me think of M3 owners talking down about the GT-R.
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Honestly I don't know why people are getting so sensitive about it. This is a forum of Evo owners, I think it's safe to say many of us could have afforded a GT500 if we really wanted, but the fact is we didn't buy one and we bought an Evo instead. The many reasons for choosing an Evo over a GT500 probably resonates with a lot of people, so discussing those reasons in a rational manner on the forum could be helpful. Just because we made a choice of an Evo over a GT500 doesn't mean we hate the GT500 and all of it's owners.
The same thing is true of M3 owners and GTRs. Most of them could have simply bought a GTR if all they cared about was going fast. They have other criteria and so discussing it on a forum, really what's the big deal?
The same thing is true of M3 owners and GTRs. Most of them could have simply bought a GTR if all they cared about was going fast. They have other criteria and so discussing it on a forum, really what's the big deal?
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Honestly I don't know why people are getting so sensitive about it. This is a forum of Evo owners, I think it's safe to say many of us could have afforded a GT500 if we really wanted, but the fact is we didn't buy one and we bought an Evo instead. The many reasons for choosing an Evo over a GT500 probably resonates with a lot of people, so discussing those reasons in a rational manner on the forum could be helpful. Just because we made a choice of an Evo over a GT500 doesn't mean we hate the GT500 and all of it's owners.
The same thing is true of M3 owners and GTRs. Most of them could have simply bought a GTR if all they cared about was going fast. They have other criteria and so discussing it on a forum, really what's the big deal?
The same thing is true of M3 owners and GTRs. Most of them could have simply bought a GTR if all they cared about was going fast. They have other criteria and so discussing it on a forum, really what's the big deal?
I do agree with you about this being an EVO forum.