Until you want to turn...

 

Dude, I'd much rather have a GT-R over a GT500 anyday of week, the GT-R is one of my favorites.

I'm just saying, the '13 GT500 is faster than an '09-'11 GTR. What do you expect, similar weight, 660hp vs 485hp?

We get it, you think Mustang's cannot turn, thanks. That being said my previous post had nothing regarding handling, but thanks for your concern.

 

Please name one professional racing series where the Evo X consistently beats a Mustang.

 

wrc

 

There's no "we".

Mustangs can turn fine, just not as well as a GTR or a properly set up Evo. At least, as I've observed on track. My "concern" is directed at the lack of consistency in your statements throughout the thread. You've made a few comments that, when pushed, you capitulate and restate.

 

Goodness, I can't name one professional road racing series where Mustangs even regularly compete against Evos. That wasn't the point of my comment, of course, but you asked. I can say, empirically, that the Mustangs, while good cars and when (by class) on equal footing for HP, weight and set up, haven't been on pace.

 

I'm curious as to know exactly how many people commenting on this thread has actually drivin the new Mustangs. I for one actually come from that world, just traded my 2012 5.0 for a more family friendly (and curb gripping EVO X) and I can tell you that there are several cons ( as well as pros) in regards to performance.

In regards to handling, while it did pull a .97 on the skid pad (.98 for the Shelby) there is a temendous amount of oversteer (For all models), during hard cornering it feels like its getting away from you, promotes a lack of confidence in the abilities of this vehicle. After noticing this I: swapped the springs, new LCAs, new rear UCA, Adj PHP, PHB Brace, and a larger/stiffer sway in the rear to eliminate the oversteer. Now after the modifications this vehicle handled A LOT better yet the performance I would have hoped to gain was marginal at best. I wouldn't have had an issue taking it for an Auto X event but (in comparison to the EVO its handling was yet again marginal).

Power wise there is really nothing that can touch them. With an intake, tune, and offroad x my car put down 427whp/401tq and the timing above 5k was a little off so the vehicle was capable of more. I would have to agree that in this aspect the vehicle outclasses the EVO hands down. Yet the EVO is also capable of running low 12s high 11s with just a tune and an intake (Shelby runs 11s factory). Can't beat that with a stick.

Is it practical, depends on your needs. I personally have two kids and it took me 30 minutes to get the kids out of the car and swap the car seats into the EVO for a test drive (bummer, had the guy at the Dealership laughing along with a couple of on lookers). Plenty of shoulder room and comfortable seats (rear seat has no use except to throw your jacket or trash back there). The trunk space (as compared to the EVO X) is slightly larger yet the opening to the trunk could have been bigger to use its cargo volume to its fullest extent. It really comes down to four doors or two...

Braking, the factory brakes on the Brembo equipped 5.0/BOSS/Shelbys have a great stopping distance ( 60-0 107ft ). That being said while it stops well continued use of the system does in fact show fade due to the vehicle only being quiped with Brembos in the front (Due to the use of a solid rear axle the fixed Brembo brakes would not have worked so Ford opted for the floating caliper). The rear brakes on this car cannot keep up when driving, lets say, sprinting around a mountain or on an Auto X course. However for daily driving the brakes are wonderful.

The new Shelby is a blast to drive along with the new 5.0s but exactly how fast do you need a street car. I enjoyed the power numbers I put down with my 5.0 but I couldn't have fun with the car on the street. It just got to the point where it wasn't safe, downshifting gears during city driving results in the loss of traction ( for example downshifting into third running 60-65 mph the vehilce would cut sideways)...not to say I couldn't drive it but it did get annoying knowing that I had all this power I couldn't use. Rainy days, as I've said before in my previous post, are nightmares. I couldn't imagine driving a Shelby in the rain, and with the Ice we get down here I'd be afraid to travel to work. Another reason I opted for AWD, for safety and knowing that whatever power I decide to make I can actually use it to its full potential.

Point is that both cars, like others have posted before, have their strengths and weaknesses. EVO X (Large Brembo Brakes, AWD, four doors, lower price tag) '13 Shelby (662bhp, Limited Production by Carroll Shelby, class leading technology)....take your time and read up on the forums (EvolutionM.net and ModdedMustangs.com). If you have the money and the ability to get the Shelby then I would say go for it, but if your concerned over the price tag at all or worried about it being practical then I'd opt for the EVO. They are both nice cars and both of them are limited production vehicles that make you proud to own one.

As far as this thread is concerned, we should be discussing the OPs question not arguing amongst eachother

 

Ill just leave this here

 

I think it's a nice blue.

 

There is no lack of consistency.

I've said several things throughout this thread, I said the 5.0 is a better value than the Evo, I said you would be amazed at how well they handle with the right mods and driver. I also said for straight line performance they are superior. At this point I don't really care.

AWD is fun and all, anyone can drive it fast, it takes much more skill to handle a fast RWD, and that seems enticing to me.

Also not everything is about lap times, just because one car is slower around a track doesn't mean it's less fun to drive. Watch the new car and driver video, testing the Alpha 12 around willow springs. It might not be the fastest car around the track but I can assure you it is WAY more fun to drive then just about anything.

 

So many opinions being thrown around as fact on this thread it's sickening.

100% agree with Sunwalker12.

 

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

 

Glad to see that someone appreciates what I'm trying to do....lol I can't believe this thread is already 8 pages...

 

I love my Evo but I would go with the GT500! The GT500 does 11sec in the 1/4mile and has the top speed of 200mph, this is a stock car!

 

The new Gt500s are very nice and powerful that's for sure. Really trying to compare these 2 cars will always end up in a debate about the positives of both and which one will ultimately outweigh the cons will be up to the person deciding between the 2. Its very simple....do you want to spend 55k for stock brute power with luxury and ok handeling? Or do you want to spend 30-35k for great handeling AWD but give up a nice interior and power (Evo X is still peppy and fun stock).

If it was me and I was looking for a weekend car I would be looking at a Z06 or a GTR.