On the used market very lightly used GT500 can be had for less then new Evos, easily. When the GTR came out in 2009 it was actually cheaper then an M3 with options.

If you had 30 grand to burn and really wanted a GT500, you could have had one instead. There are plenty of legitimate reasons for choosing an Evo over a GT500. Same situation with choosing an M3 over a GTR. If you really wanted the other car, it probably wouldn't be a big deal.

I don't understand the need to insult members of this board just for voicing their own opinions.

Anyways, Merry Christmas dude.

 

So it's burning a lot of gas down there at 2000rpm where only an idiot would be trying to race? At 2000rpm I want a 2.0 liter..... At 2000rpm I don't want wheelspin.

That's a horrible argument if you really think about it. It's like saying one car performs better in reverse. It's irrelevant to the discussion. 2000rpm....

 

Clearly you have never had the opportunity to drive something that has really strong low-end torque.

That is the one thing I dislike most about the Evo is it is literally gut less until you hit boost. I would love to have that kind of low-end torque.

 

I have and I can tell you that while its fun for a little while I'd rather have the AWD so I can actually plant that power to the ground...plus you can't beat that feeling when the turbo kicks in and the sound of that BPV.....

 

i do love that "surprise" feel of the turbo, but as far as "planting the power to ground" (with a V8) - it's all about finding the right wheel/tire combo. a buddy of mine has a supercharged 2011 Camaro 2SS putting down 575 to the wheels and his car doesn't have traction issues at all - but that's because he's running Mickey Thompson ET's (basically street legal slicks). factory tires almost always suck...

this is what you need when you've got a muscle car:
http://www.lethalperformance.com/201...et-radial.html

 

Yeah getting 500RWHP to hook isn't that big of a challenge.

People get far more powerful cars to hook up than that.

 

I could not think of one either. So any claims as to respective performance of the two cars around a track cannot be substantiated by empirical data gathered from motor racing – the ultimate arbiter of vehicle performance.

Simply saying “Until you want to turn...” is not an informed comment.

I did not know someone campaigned a Mustang in WRC - you live and learn. I assume it was a privateer. How did it do versus any Evos entered?

 

Mustangs are a dime-a-dozen. I dont care what model it is. They are all big archaic motors that handle like boats. The Evo has great fury and passion.

 

they don't handle like boats anymore.

Did you read the thread?

I said the same thing and I was impressed with the car. I just took a ride on it recently and the 5.0 + up handle quiet well... but I still don't justify spending that much money for a mustang , your getting close to a used GTR at that point

 

I drove a 5.0 before I bought my evo. They would not let me test drive the "boss" fine don't know how they sell cars you can't drive. Unless i wanted to order one, no thanks. The 5.0 is a decent car up to "boss" level is a fast car that can roll with some nice rides. then the 2013 gt500 is a 200+ mph vehicle that's fast. It whips alot cars I wouldn't wanna mess with one at the track

 

if you want big power (more than 450 whp) from a 4b11t or 4g63, a built bottom end is a must. and even with that, constant maintenance and assessment are needed to keep it healthy. its what comes with making 250+ whp per liter. also, the clutch will go by-by pretty quickly with a few launches even at stock power levels. bottom line is that serious mods will be needed to hang with a gt500 in a straight line. it will reward you with an *** kicking ride though. on an auto-x course, its hard to imagine a stock evo not being able to take a gt500.

 

As someone who had driven both cars, I have to say I would get the gt500 if you've got the money. I almost got one myself but I live in Northern Idaho and we get tons of snow for half the year, and didnt really want to stretch myself too thin. But you said this would be a weekend car, whereas it would have been a year round DD for me.

Ford has done a great job improving the shelbys all around since 2007, handling, power, looks, and even the interior. Simple bolt-ons with this car makes insane power and you said you like turbos, well if you ever decided to void the warranty you can get the Hellion twin turbo kit.........its insane. Or hell with ford just mod it using Ford racing parts and you can even upgrade the supercharger and it wont void the warranty.

Im not bashing the evo obviously, I liked my evo 9 enough to buy an X. Im sure a well modded evo with a quality tune can compete with the stock gt500 on the track. And a built evo by a group like AMS or something (since youd save a lot going evo over 500)would kill and a stock gt500.

So really there are a ton of variables but overall Id have to say gt500 unless you said you didnt care about warranty at all.

And to everyone saying gtr, last time I checked every gtr owner was still wanting like mid 60's for 09's that dont have like 40k+ miles on them. Which is bs since in 09 they basically paid that much new for it. And to get a lightly used newer gtr is way more than a gt500

 

The only way to compare cars fairly is stock to stock. That being said, comparing a Evo to a gt500 is quite a stretch for obvious reasons. Namely the power difference. If u want to compare a similarly powered jap car with awd then the gtr is the ticket. And we all know theres no comparison. The gt500 isnt even close. Bottomline, go gtr if u got the green.

 

comparing cars with almost twice the power and price to an Evo...10 pages no less. LOL

 

I disagree.... you can compare cars however you want really. By mpg, leg room, cup holders, ergonomics, power, mod-ability, handling ,etc.

You can't just come in here telling us to not talk about it....

Even people discussing cup holders might hate all the small cup holders in current cars, but really *love* some van that has a big cubby hole where those aftermarket cup holders that hold bigger drinks fit.

(Yes this was a conversation I heard at a grooming shop where an overweight groomer complained about small drink holders in all new cars)

Same thing going on here.... But we're modding for power and handling. Which car is easier to get what you want? It's really a valid discussion if you ask me.