newer alternative to the Evo 8/9?
Just stumbled across some news that apparently there is going to be an AWD turbo Dodge Dart in a few years:
http://jalopnik.com/the-dodge-dart-s...ter-1572339997
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...-the-fold.html
http://jalopnik.com/the-dodge-dart-s...ter-1572339997
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...-the-fold.html
I would consider a new golf tdi.... With just the APR tune I am making 220whp and 300ftlb torque... Does not impress? How about all this with factory Recaro seats, 50mpg highway, twin clutch with paddle shifts and all at 2750lbs! No depreciation because diesel and 25k OTD after good negotiation..
Not as fast as the evo but makes an excellent DD..
Not as fast as the evo but makes an excellent DD..
I often drive a 2012 Mk VI TDI, and stock it can't even outrun a Corolla. I have no idea where you're getting those numbers, but even on APR's website, a tuned TDI only makes "173hp". Notice that's a crank HP estimate, they don't even show whp in advertisements, and their dyno reads much higher than most.
http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_20tdi.html
Maybe you meant GTI? Still, it won't make anywhere near 300 torque at the wheels.
so here is a question for u guys what about FRS/BRZ ? it gets good gas mileage an looks good an cheep!! i do plan on getting an EVO 8/9 but i cant afford the up keep right now an my ralliart is falling apart lol it just hit 302,699 kms plez don't flame i just want to here what you guys have to say.

Evo is here another model year. After that, I'd go STI, then WRX. The MKVII Golf R will probably be very nice, but without complete end user tunability on the EA888, VW's propensity for shoddy reliability, clutches inability to take much power over stock, and the eye-watering German car mod tax, it's something that would be best experienced at stock power levels. The Dart isn't even on my radar compared to these cars.
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I don't see that as realistic competition to the Impregacy WRX. The WRX has such a better chassis this time around. The Dart chassis is pretty much garbage in comparison. They better have serious witchcraft planned to make it good, otherwise it will be a one trick pony like the last SRT-4s were, but at least it will have traction this time.
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My friend has the turbo dart. Its a solid car. It gets great mileage and he can chirp in the first 3 gears with the dual clutch. I could see that car being great with a decent awd setup.
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350hp.
the car that excites me is a car we dont get as usual. I like the RS3. would love to own that 5cyl awd platform. I wish evo x had done that. thats what it needed for its ridiculous weight.











