Focus RS
The way I see it , is Ford used the claimed practically permanent overboost function, to get the Society of Automotive Engineers to officially rate the Focus RS’s 2.3-liter EcoBoost engine at 350 hp and 350 pound-feet of torque.
Apparently they forgot to mention to the society of automotive engineers that their factory safeguards would prevent the car from actually reaching that with any consistency.
Certainly the 2.3 engine is capable of 350 hp. But if the software is not going to allow the car to reach that, then can you rightly call it a 350hp car?
Call a spade a spade.
Apparently they forgot to mention to the society of automotive engineers that their factory safeguards would prevent the car from actually reaching that with any consistency.
Certainly the 2.3 engine is capable of 350 hp. But if the software is not going to allow the car to reach that, then can you rightly call it a 350hp car?
Call a spade a spade.
All this is not about the 5hp. I could forgive Ford rounding up to 350 for US marketing.
The issue is, Kaizen's dyno results show ~290whp when in overboost, and ~250whp when not in overboost. With a 290 run being rare and impossible to predict. Kaizen got it once out of 5 dyno runs. Mishimoto apparently only got 250whp results.
So 250whp = approximately 300hp at the crank.
In the real world, RS owners are reporting inconsistent power/boost. I thought it was overboost not working, others say its safeguard limiting power.
The issue is, Kaizen's dyno results show ~290whp when in overboost, and ~250whp when not in overboost. With a 290 run being rare and impossible to predict. Kaizen got it once out of 5 dyno runs. Mishimoto apparently only got 250whp results.
So 250whp = approximately 300hp at the crank.
In the real world, RS owners are reporting inconsistent power/boost. I thought it was overboost not working, others say its safeguard limiting power.
Hint: Your answer if correct will reveal a number not too far off of the numbers you have been touting. Use correct 345 HP FORD US rating
345 HP X .18 = 62 HP Now..... 345 HP - 62 HP = 283 WHP........Wowie zowie!!
Looks pretty close to Kaizen numbas mang............
Your math does not explain the differences between the 290 whp run (with correspondingly higher boost readings), vs. the average 250whp runs.
Nor all the owner reports of inconsistent power and boost readings.
Or do you think drivetrain losses somehow explains that?
Nor all the owner reports of inconsistent power and boost readings.
Or do you think drivetrain losses somehow explains that?
So Kaizen lies? You are starting to doubt your own submissions.....reallY bro
Let me be clear:
1. Kaizen got a single 290whp run (the one on overboost).
2. The remaining Kaizen and Mishimoto dyno runs were all 250 whp.
The issue is, why does the RS not consistently put down 290whp?
Now you want to discuss some other depairities that personally I think are a result of what Razor has been trying to explain to you.
I am pretty clear in my head a stock RS should dyno ~ 280 to 290 WHP
You got some low reading numbers but do not have any variables to ascertain these results...... well good hunting
The mouse is in your pocket now...........
Its not specularion. There have now been multiple cars dyno'd and tons of complaints of inconsistent/underwhelming power. http://www.focusrs.org/forum/9-focus-rs-discussions
http://www.focusrs.org/forum/9-focus...appointed.html
http://www.focusrs.org/forum/9-focus...mile-et-s.html
And these complaints are from RS owners. Presumably the people most likely to praise the car.
http://www.focusrs.org/forum/9-focus...appointed.html
http://www.focusrs.org/forum/9-focus...mile-et-s.html
And these complaints are from RS owners. Presumably the people most likely to praise the car.
http://www.focusrs.org/forum/9-focus...mile-et-s.html
damn, that is not what I was expecting/hoping to see. trapping in the low 100s? I like this car but there's some kind of tune issue or something going on with it. peak seems fine under good conditions but it's so inconsistent
I don't think you have actually read the Kaizen and Mishimoto RS threads. Go read up before you pretend you know what you are talking out.
"Our RS was on the dyno. DynoJet 424LC2.
250hp/290tq repeatably.
290hp/320tq in overboost."
http://www.focusrs.org/forum/48-kaiz...s-rs-dyno.html
Kaizen was not able to recreate the single 290whp result, (which was their 1st run).
There are plenty of other threads trying to figure out why overboost is so sporadic.
http://www.focusrs.org/forum/9-focus...appointed.html
http://www.focusrs.org/forum/9-focus...-how-when.html
"Our RS was on the dyno. DynoJet 424LC2.
250hp/290tq repeatably.
290hp/320tq in overboost."
http://www.focusrs.org/forum/48-kaiz...s-rs-dyno.html
Kaizen was not able to recreate the single 290whp result, (which was their 1st run).
There are plenty of other threads trying to figure out why overboost is so sporadic.
http://www.focusrs.org/forum/9-focus...appointed.html
http://www.focusrs.org/forum/9-focus...-how-when.html
I certainly haven't agreed with nesmin on most of his anti-fors sentiment but this issue seems legitimate.
if you guys are convinced it's not that's fine but it seems some of these fors owners & waitlisted don't agree with you.
if you guys are convinced it's not that's fine but it seems some of these fors owners & waitlisted don't agree with you.
