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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 08:53 AM
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
My overall point, is don't drink the Ford marketing coolaid. They are lying to you.

Near full time overboost? Nope. Overly efficient fmic that needs to be detuned with a block off plate? Hum.
You should repeat this another twenty times.

Please stop adding all this noise to the thread. Please.
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
No I am saying other ecoboost owners are still having issues. Maybe Ford got the RS block of plate dimensions just right and solved the problem on the RS. Though even if that is the case, what happens when you change the tune or intercooler?

My money is on continued moisture problems. Time will tell.
Great, continue with the anti-Ford speculation.

Originally Posted by nemsin
My overall point, is don't drink the Ford marketing coolaid. They are lying to you.

Near full time overboost? Nope. Overly efficient fmic that needs to be detuned with a block off plate? Hum.

Your tin-foil hat is too tight.
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
I wish I could thread ban people.

Can we still MUM people?
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 10:40 AM
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Amby, I want you to drive one of these, because what you've said about the R in the past. I think you'd really like it a lot. Not to buy, but just to see your take on it.
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
No I am saying other ecoboost owners are still having issues. Maybe Ford got the RS block of plate dimensions just right and solved the problem on the RS. Though even if that is the case, what happens when you change the tune or intercooler?

My money is on continued moisture problems. Time will tell.
This isn't other EcoBoost cars.

I guess all the companies that make covers for radiators to be used on cars in cold weather should all go and reengineer their **** too. LOL
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 10:56 AM
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eh i would say be careful what you wish for. I think we all know how germans love to over engineer stuff, this pretty simple solution could have been a cluster f*ck of tubes and electronic valves etc that could have been a nightmare to deal with.
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 12:54 PM
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eh i would say be careful what you wish for. I think we all know how germans love to over engineer stuff, this pretty simple solution could have been a cluster f*ck of tubes and electronic valves etc that could have been a nightmare to deal with.
Exactly. But no, let's fault Ford for finding the simplest solution which results in pretty much no cost being passed to the consumer.
Let's all ditch our EGR block offs, Kiggly HLAs, and crank scrapers because those are all way too easy of a fix.
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by moparfan
Yes, Ford went for the band-aid solution. But this problem has a history in some of their other cars. So whether this is just practical engineering or side-stepping a persistent problem is in question. At least for people who question manufacturers.
Well, I'm trying to figure out how some weird variable of water injection is a bad thing. Mist gets sucked into manifold and lowers charge air temperatures. I guess from an OEM standpoint, they'd be super conservative about things.

Then again, I'm no engineer.

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Has any one ever heard of this ever happening in the Evo world? I have seen some massive IC's installed in Evo's but never condensation complaints. Maybe it is to dry out here to experience this but in London or the mid west it could be conceivable..... interesting indeed.

Wonder if this could have been one of the causes all along of the random P0300 misfire code and not known it.
Back in the day, Nisei was doing testing on their competition intercooler, showing (in one test) that it actually lowered the temperatures lower than ambient. They were testing in coolish weather with mist, so there may have been some evaporative cooling effect going on externally. One of the vendors on here went ape-youknowwhat and said it was "impossible." lol. It was a vendor that gets angry a lot
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 02:52 PM
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I think the condensation issue is driven more by the climate than something unique about the Ford charge pipe layout. Any humid environment with an efficient intercooler system should be able to cause this.
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 02:53 PM
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that was a trend for a while when rally cars did sprayed water on the IC because generally the average speed slower then most auto sports, and high temperature running engines for a longer period of time. But it faded out, I am not sure if anyone has it today.

They say it was measurable cooler when you sprayed it outside. I had it on my 8, I never noticed as a driver anything though lol.
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
Amby, I want you to drive one of these, because what you've said about the R in the past. I think you'd really like it a lot. Not to buy, but just to see your take on it.
Id love to. Finding someone local with one is difficult though.
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
I think the condensation issue is driven more by the climate than something unique about the Ford charge pipe layout. Any humid environment with an efficient intercooler system should be able to cause this.
I think depends of the amount of condensation, that is the key here. Not if its happennes or not.
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Id love to. Finding someone local with one is difficult though.
dealer wont let you? I think I could get into one, but I highly doubt they would let me push it.

You need a friend for that .
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 03:13 PM
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I don't know of any dealers that have one on their lot for test drives.
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