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Has any one ever heard of this ever happening in the Evo world? I have seen some massive IC's installed in Evo's but never condensation complaints. Maybe it is to dry out here to experience this but in London or the mid west it could be conceivable..... interesting indeed.
Wonder if this could have been one of the causes all along of the random P0300 misfire code and not known it.
Wonder if this could have been one of the causes all along of the random P0300 misfire code and not known it.
It would seem there is something in Ford's design that allows vapor to form and collect.
I'm LOLing that some people are posting exactly what they did 100 posts ago haha.
Anyway, it's fixed, so who cares? Band-Aid? Would anyone here like to pay the difference in the price of block-off plate and redesigning the FMIC? Because I'm sure they will be willing to re-engineer everything if someone wants to foot the bill LOL.
As for the "well, then why do they make upgraded FMIC?" question, I would assume (using common sense, i really don't know for fact) that the difference between stock power levels and tuned requires more than removing the plate. The engineer says the FMIC cools a "bit" too much. Not enough to support after-market power levels.
Only a tuner will know how much power the stock FMIC is good for, but i would imagine it's not a whole lot more than stock.
Just my opinion on all the BS, anyway. I could be way off. Probably am. LOL
Other than the fact that our cars and the RS both have an intercooler, an intake tract, etc. there is nothing similar. You can't expect our cars to have the same performance or problems.
It would seem there is something in Ford's design that allows vapor to form and collect.
I'm LOLing that some people are posting exactly what they did 100 posts ago haha.
Anyway, it's fixed, so who cares? Band-Aid? Would anyone here like to pay the difference in the price of block-off plate and redesigning the FMIC? Because I'm sure they will be willing to re-engineer everything if someone wants to foot the bill LOL.
As for the "well, then why do they make upgraded FMIC?" question, I would assume (using common sense, i really don't know for fact) that the difference between stock power levels and tuned requires more than removing the plate. The engineer says the FMIC cools a "bit" too much. Not enough to support after-market power levels.
Only a tuner will know how much power the stock FMIC is good for, but i would imagine it's not a whole lot more than stock.
Just my opinion on all the BS, anyway. I could be way off. Probably am. LOL
It would seem there is something in Ford's design that allows vapor to form and collect.
I'm LOLing that some people are posting exactly what they did 100 posts ago haha.
Anyway, it's fixed, so who cares? Band-Aid? Would anyone here like to pay the difference in the price of block-off plate and redesigning the FMIC? Because I'm sure they will be willing to re-engineer everything if someone wants to foot the bill LOL.
As for the "well, then why do they make upgraded FMIC?" question, I would assume (using common sense, i really don't know for fact) that the difference between stock power levels and tuned requires more than removing the plate. The engineer says the FMIC cools a "bit" too much. Not enough to support after-market power levels.
Only a tuner will know how much power the stock FMIC is good for, but i would imagine it's not a whole lot more than stock.
Just my opinion on all the BS, anyway. I could be way off. Probably am. LOL
either way its a very lame "solution".
Never mind the fact even looks extremly bad and cheap. You put on the market a $30+ k performance car with all the hype and buttons, saying this is your best solution you can come up with for the problem. Its bad because you have already acknowledge was an engeneeering mistake (you needed a band aid witch is ckear as a sun), just doesnt sounds, and look good.
I think that is why people circle back to this real eye catching problem. Its almost ignorant to do this lol.
But we through of this. So lets hear the real life, on street, and on track stories.
i am more interested at this point of those.
yesterday happened to run into one blue RS, but he was cruising. I dont bother him, he most likely still just tasting a car and probabaly break it in.
either way its a very lame "solution".
Never mind the fact even looks extremly bad and cheap. You put on the market a $30+ k performance car with all the hype and buttons, saying this is your best solution you can come up with for the problem. Its bad because you have already acknowledge was an engeneeering mistake (you needed a band aid witch is ckear as a sun), just doesnt sounds, and look good.
I think that is why people circle back to this real eye catching problem. Its almost ignorant to do this lol.
But we through of this. So lets hear the real life, on street, and on track stories.
i am more interested at this point of those.
yesterday happened to run into one blue RS, but he was cruising. I dont bother him, he most likely still just tasting a car and probabaly break it in.
Never mind the fact even looks extremly bad and cheap. You put on the market a $30+ k performance car with all the hype and buttons, saying this is your best solution you can come up with for the problem. Its bad because you have already acknowledge was an engeneeering mistake (you needed a band aid witch is ckear as a sun), just doesnt sounds, and look good.
I think that is why people circle back to this real eye catching problem. Its almost ignorant to do this lol.
But we through of this. So lets hear the real life, on street, and on track stories.
i am more interested at this point of those.
yesterday happened to run into one blue RS, but he was cruising. I dont bother him, he most likely still just tasting a car and probabaly break it in.
Condensation/moisture buildup is a known issue for the ecoboost engine.
Apparently Ford's "solution" is the deflector plate you see
http://blog.bluespringsfordparts.com...boost-shudder/
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/11...n-buildup.html
http://www.f150forum.com/f70/new-tsb-13-8-1-a-221455/
Ford marketing would have you believe that its because the factory intercooler is too efficient.
Apparently Ford's "solution" is the deflector plate you see
http://blog.bluespringsfordparts.com...boost-shudder/
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/11...n-buildup.html
http://www.f150forum.com/f70/new-tsb-13-8-1-a-221455/
Ford marketing would have you believe that its because the factory intercooler is too efficient.
either way its a very lame "solution".
Never mind the fact even looks extremly bad and cheap. You put on the market a $30+ k performance car with all the hype and buttons, saying this is your best solution you can come up with for the problem. Its bad because you have already acknowledge was an engeneeering mistake (you needed a band aid witch is ckear as a sun), just doesnt sounds, and look good.
I think that is why people circle back to this real eye catching problem. Its almost ignorant to do this lol.
But we through of this. So lets hear the real life, on street, and on track stories.
i am more interested at this point of those.
yesterday happened to run into one blue RS, but he was cruising. I dont bother him, he most likely still just tasting a car and probabaly break it in.
Never mind the fact even looks extremly bad and cheap. You put on the market a $30+ k performance car with all the hype and buttons, saying this is your best solution you can come up with for the problem. Its bad because you have already acknowledge was an engeneeering mistake (you needed a band aid witch is ckear as a sun), just doesnt sounds, and look good.
I think that is why people circle back to this real eye catching problem. Its almost ignorant to do this lol.
But we through of this. So lets hear the real life, on street, and on track stories.
i am more interested at this point of those.
yesterday happened to run into one blue RS, but he was cruising. I dont bother him, he most likely still just tasting a car and probabaly break it in.
I don't I understand why people are so hung up on this.
To me, it seems like the plate is a bandaid that does not address the real underlying issue.
My complaint is Ford is trying to convince potential RS owners that their OEM intercooler is simply too efficient. If you read through some of the threads I linked, you will find people still having condensation problems even after multiple TRB & different versions of block off plates and programming changes have tried to resolve it.
To me, it seems like the plate is a bandaid that does not address the real underlying issue.
To me, it seems like the plate is a bandaid that does not address the real underlying issue.
No I am saying other ecoboost owners are still having issues. Maybe Ford got the RS block of plate dimensions just right and solved the problem on the RS. Though even if that is the case, what happens when you change the tune or intercooler?
My money is on continued moisture problems. Time will tell.
My money is on continued moisture problems. Time will tell.
Are we REALLY circling around on this same god damn thing again??!??!?!
Jayzus, Trump, take us all.
If it's not Mitsubishi, Rob thinks its crap and cheap, which is highly ironic.
Jayzus, Trump, take us all.
If it's not Mitsubishi, Rob thinks its crap and cheap, which is highly ironic.
Last edited by razorlab; Jun 30, 2016 at 07:49 AM.
My overall point, is don't drink the Ford marketing coolaid. They are lying to you.
Near full time overboost? Nope. Overly efficient fmic that needs to be detuned with a block off plate? Hum.
Near full time overboost? Nope. Overly efficient fmic that needs to be detuned with a block off plate? Hum.