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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 11:56 AM
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Why do I need to own one to have discussions around it?

Magazines that don't have correct info? That has never happened. :-/

Weak arguments.
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 01:13 PM
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Sorry, I must have misunderstood

Seems like most of you on this lengthy thread are touting some perceived virtues of this Ford offering.

If your're not planning on getting one, I understand. I dont want one either

After the EVO, if there is another, I plan on moving up on the food chain, not down

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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 01:31 PM
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Solenoid
Sorry, I must have misunderstood

Seems like most of you on this lengthy thread are touting some perceived virtues of this Ford offering.

If your're not planning on getting one, I understand. I dont want one either

After the EVO, if there is another, I plan on moving up on the food chain, not down
How are you so certain that the RS is a step down? lol. The car just barely came out and is just now in the hands of a few tuners.
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 02:29 PM
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Because it's not a 10 year old Evo, brah.
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 02:37 PM
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10 year old is too new, Evo 6 is best!
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Because it's not a 10 year old Evo, brah.
The even better part was the open source tuning stuff for the evo wasn't even that great until tephra really took off with it. Guys love to reference how the Evo is a simple 100hp gain with bolt on and a tune. Well, it wasn't like that in 2004 right after they came out...lol
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
The even better part was the open source tuning stuff for the evo wasn't even that great until tephra really took off with it. Guys love to reference how the Evo is a simple 100hp gain with bolt on and a tune. Well, it wasn't like that in 2004 right after they came out...lol
Don't try to cloud the speculation with things like facts, man, what do you think this is, a source for objective information?
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
The even better part was the open source tuning stuff for the evo wasn't even that great until tephra really took off with it. Guys love to reference how the Evo is a simple 100hp gain with bolt on and a tune. Well, it wasn't like that in 2004 right after they came out...lol
lol maybe with the open source.... evo was great since day one for the time where they were released. also they always had a great potential, evos was known for that since they hit the road. Open source was a stollen ecuteck softwere( i think russians cracked it) I think around 2003 or so.
But there was and are other tools before and after to make Evo tunes etc great.

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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 03:19 PM
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Sigh... You still don't know the potential of the RS, or whether or not it's "great"...Yet you continue to purport that it sucks..
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
lol maybe with the open source.... evo was great since day one for the time where they were released. also they always had a great potential, evos was known for that since they hit the road. Open source was a stollen ecuteck softwere( i think russians cracked it) I think around 2003 or so.
But there was and are other tools before and after to make Evo tunes etc great.
Just stop with this. Always the same ignorant story.

EcuFlash came out in 2005 as a command line interface. The first actual GUI version was late 2005.

You are thinking of the EcuEdit accusation, which isn't even OS.

Here is some light reading to help you move beyond ignorance: http://www.romraider.com/RomRaider/R...ourceCommunity

The OS tools have created a far superior product compared, and EcuTek keeps trying to lump them in with EcuEdit because OS has taken a ton of market share from them. Imagine that, build a more accessible, extendable and superior product and it takes away market share from a competing product...

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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 03:56 PM
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I have no doubt that if you compare the level of tuning sophistication and understanding now to what was available in 2003, it'd be a night and day difference. ****, I remember people on here claiming the STI was untunable and maxed out from the factory from 2004 to about 2010. Now guys are seeing gains of 100 ft-lbs of torque with a downpipe and tune. Same with the Evo. The gains are massive, thanks to a better understandable of the software and the hardware needs.
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 07:04 PM
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https://youtu.be/j_ZNyo-VcYk

at least he doesn't said the STI engine is better. lol

poor STI guys, always trailing... lol
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 08:15 PM
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Get your link to work, and then we'll talk about people "trailing".
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
https://youtu.be/j_ZNyo-VcYk

at least he doesn't said the STI engine is better. lol

poor STI guys, always trailing... lol
basically some idiot grasping at straws trying to justify his STi purchase over the FoRS. I recommend nobody waste their time watching it
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