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You don't what that driveline is made of, or how thick the wall is. So you have no idea how strong it is or isn't.
As far as stamped steel parts go... meh. It's not a huge detriment to performance. They were likely left in interest of cost and hitting a price point..
Give me a buzz around the block when you get one Sean
Quote taken from the R&T article pasted here:
That means the driveline is as light as possible to improve performance while still being able to reliably put down power—especially under Launch Control. But that also means the driveline is quickly approaching its limit for handling more power.
Last edited by MinusPrevious; Jul 11, 2016 at 01:56 PM.
My Integra Type R had lots of stamped steel parts. Anyone want to tell me how horrible of a car that was? LOL
I don't care what the parts are made of, as long as they work. I (kind) trust Ford to make a driveline that doesn't snap and javelin into the ground.
If you want more power than the car is built for, you upgrade stuff.
My Integra Type R had lots of stamped steel parts. Anyone want to tell me how horrible of a car that was? LOL
I don't care what the parts are made of, as long as they work. I (kind) trust Ford to make a driveline that doesn't snap and javelin into the ground.
If you want more power than the car is built for, you upgrade stuff.
Right, the FRS/BRZ twins have all stamped steel suspension bits as well and that chassis has been proven to be more than capable.
Gentlemen. Not here to start a full-on debate as I do not have the time/energy (plus, Im out numbered =)
Just not sure why there is so much interest in this model
When I first read about it, sure the specs & no.s look interesting but when I dug a bit deeper (peeking under the skirt) I really questioned why I was interested
The spindly rear drive line & all the stamped steel suspension parts. The engine bay decor & all the electronic wizardry involved
I always love this "maxed out" from the factory speak. It cracks me up.
I've been messing with cars for more than 20 years now and it's the same process over and over and over again.
"It's maxed out"
Eight months later people are making +100wtq in the car with zero issues.
Happens with every bit of new tech. It's not maxed out from the factory. That is not how OEMs design things.
The Mustang Ecoboost came out and people be like "the turbo is maxed out". Six months later people are running 11's with a tune, an intercooler and good fuel.
The same crap happened with the Evo 10. "It's not an Evo, it doesn't handle like an Evo" BS. It has been proven it is VERY much an Evo. I was actually a part of this lame *** crew. I *hated* my 10 compared to my 8 at first. Now I'm faster with it at the same track with less mods and very impressed by it.
Similarly the, the CT9A 5 speed manual is rated at like 350ft-lbs of torque. That's torque at the crank. How many guys make 400? 500? 600?
i never knew the CT9A transmission is rated for 359 ft-lbs torque.
where did you read that?
as far as i know they actually designed to handle around 500 lbs.
as far as 20+ year rally experience is we do run well over 450torque and the 5MT is bullet proof. We do however do destroy rear diffs . Its a cheap replacement vs the transmission.
Maybe that is a same logic with the RS. But for rally that set up is not legal. Anyway the idea can be a same.
I always love this "maxed out" from the factory speak. It cracks me up.
I've been messing with cars for more than 20 years now and it's the same process over and over and over again.
"It's maxed out"
Eight months later people are making +100wtq in the car with zero issues.
Happens with every bit of new tech. It's not maxed out from the factory. That is not how OEMs design things
The Mustang Ecoboost came out and people be like "the turbo is maxed out". Six months later people are running 11's with a tune, an intercooler and good fuel.
The same crap happened with the Evo 10. "It's not an Evo, it doesn't handle like an Evo" BS. It has been proven it is VERY much an Evo. I was actually a part of this lame *** crew. I *hated* my 10 compared to my 8 at first. Now I'm faster with it at the same track with less mods and very impressed by it.
The W5M51 is rated at 375lbft of torque. Granted this is an OEM rating, this means the transmission will last what the OEM has determined the the life cycle to be...whether that is 150k miles or 200k miles or whatever, we don't know. The point is OEM's vastly under rate things and understate what they can handle because that rating also has a life expectancy factor that is typically quite long.
I always love this "maxed out" from the factory speak. It cracks me up.
I didnt quote them word for word, but dont criticize the messenger. R&T noted that! What do they know
BTW, after you order one & mod it up, let us know. Ill drive up the coast & check it out
That means the driveline is as light as possible to improve performance while still being able to reliably put down power—especially under Launch Control. But that also means the driveline is quickly approaching its limit for handling more power.
