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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:08 AM
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Yea, the 2003-2004 Evo GSR sucked on the track.
Front diff > no front diff. Next question.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
You are attempting to oversimplify things. Weight is not the only factor. The IX has numerous advantages over the I that more than make up for the extra weight.

In my mind, the Focus RS doesn't not have enough advantages over an Escort RS to outweigh (pun intended) the extra weight.

Focus RS has no front diff, is not full time awd, has a clutch based twinster rear diff that will have issues with heat and increased hp, and is heavy.
Yet weight is the factor you have argued and complained about incessantly for pages upon pages. You don't give two ****s about the favorable reviews that speak of these other factors. No, you ***** about the weight, and compare the RS to a car from the ****ing 90s as "proof" that it's too heavy.

I have done the same with the Evo. The Evo IX is a bloated pig compared to the Evo I. Why didn't Mitsubishi use more expensive aluminum and composites to keep the weight the same? Why did Mitsubishi need to add an astonishing 500 lbs to the car? These are all questions you have asked of Ford, yet don't care to ask of Mitsubishi because it means you'd have to admit you're just a ****ing fanboy troll.

The rest has already been argued, to death. It's all bull**** speculation on your part premised on your assumptions that the Evo system is the "best". Whatever the **** "best" even means.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
Front diff > no front diff. Next question.
The 2003-2004 Evo GSR had an open front differential just like the Focus RS.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:14 AM
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Well I guess the 2003-2004 GSR, along with being an overweight pig, was also a garbage track car, what with the lack of a front diff.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Yea, the 2003-2004 Evo GSR sucked on the track.
compere to evos with front lsd defenietly, its a no brainer.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:18 AM
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Jesus christ, you fools keep changing the argument when you get called out on things that are wrong. This is selective skepticism and basically, madness .
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:20 AM
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Do you really not know why a helical front diff is better than an open front diff? Here is a good summary http://www.roadraceengineering.com/quaife.htm
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Jesus christ, you fools keep changing the argument when you get called out on things that are wrong. This is madness.
Pretty classic "I just want to argue" behavior. Rob just wants to argue I think to improve his English skills, and nemsin just wants to argue because he's an Evo fanboy and apparently can't stand that there is a car out there that may fill the hole left by the Evo's departure from the market. Or he's upset that in a thread about the Ford Focus RS, people are actually talking about the Focus RS and not metaphorically giving Mitsubishi a *******.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
Do you really not know why a helical front diff is better than an open front diff? Here is a good summary http://www.roadraceengineering.com/quaife.htm
The 2003-2004 GSR did not have a helical front diff, that is a LSD. The 2003-2004 Evo GSR had AN OPEN FRONT DIFFERENTIAL.

Only the 2004 RS model had a helical front diff.

You don't even know what Evos have? Come on man. They call this "ignorance".
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Jesus christ, you fools keep changing the argument when you get called out on things that are wrong. This is selective skepticism and basically, madness .
i simply answered your statment. for an exmaple the 8 RS does handles the best, because of the front diff and the weight :
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
Do you really not know why a helical front diff is better than an open front diff? Here is a good summary http://www.roadraceengineering.com/quaife.htm
Nobody is arguing with you. "Better" is a completely subjective term. For a track car, sure, a front diff is better as it will result in faster lap times. Most people who buy an RS won't track their car. Most people don't track their Evos. Most people don't track their car, regardless of what it is. All those track goodies are just there so people can brag at the bar about how their car has racing pedigree.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Nobody is arguing with you. "Better" is a completely subjective term. For a track car, sure, a front diff is better as it will result in faster lap times. Most people who buy an RS won't track their car. Most people don't track their Evos. Most people don't track their car, regardless of what it is. All those track goodies are just there so people can brag at the bar about how their car has racing pedigree.
you should leave your room, and go out to do some spectating in races.
Most evo owners are not in this or any forum, let just start with that... lol

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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
i simply answered your statement.
Hush, I wasn't talking to you, I was having a conversation with the adults.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:30 AM
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Just want to post this again...

Originally Posted by nemsin
Do you really not know why a helical front diff is better than an open front diff? Here is a good summary http://www.roadraceengineering.com/quaife.htm
The 2003-2004 GSR did not have a helical front diff, that is a LSD. The 2003-2004 Evo GSR had AN OPEN FRONT DIFFERENTIAL.

Only the 2004 RS model had a helical front diff.

You don't even know what Evos have? Come on man. They call this "ignorance".
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Hush, I wasn't talking to you, I was having a conversation with the adults.
that sound like a butt hurt comment from an adult or pretty normal from an infant.

Your pick
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