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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 09:44 AM
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you didnt mind it until you got again, bumps on the road.
Are you having a stroke or something? In order to have a logical conversation with others, you need to actually make sense when you are in that conversation.

Babble on...
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 09:54 AM
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Yet you don't give a **** that the Evo IX is 500 lbs heavier than the Evo I. Nor do you give a **** that the Evo X weighs more than the RS. Don't try to bull**** us now by claiming weight and MPG are that important to you. If that were true, you wouldn't be driving a ****ing Evo in the first place.
I think the IX is a great car. The Evo I was pretty terrible by comparison. However, weight is very important to me. I do not own an Evo X largely because of its girth. My current Evo is sub-3000lb. and I can tell the difference.

Anyone that thinks differently, try putting 400 lbs worth of passengers in your car and go for a spirited drive. Now imagine how much faster your brakes will heat up, or tires wear if you were on the track with that extra 400lbs.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Are you having a stroke or something? In order to have a logical conversation with others, you need to actually make sense when you are in that conversation.

Babble on...
you couldnt hold it as long as i thought lolololol.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
I think the IX is a great car. The Evo I was pretty terrible by comparison. However, weight is very important to me. I do not own an Evo X largely because of its girth. My current Evo is sub-3000lb. and I can tell the difference.

Anyone that thinks differently, try putting 400 lbs worth of passengers in your car and go for a spirited drive. Now imagine how much faster your brakes will heat up, or tires wear if you were on the track with that extra 400lbs.
But the IX is an overweight pig. You haven't driven the RS, yet, based on the weight, you've spent hundreds of pages now *****ing about it.

The irony is delicious.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 10:09 AM
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In my mind, a lighter fulltime (mechanical) awd car, is inherently better than a heavier part time (twinster) awd Focus RS.

Time will tell, and we will see if the Focus RS has any impact in any form of racing (SCCA, Club level, or Professional). I suspect that it will not.

But I forget, racing isn't import to you. I am sure the Focus RS will be a fine daily driver.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
In my mind, a lighter fulltime (mechanical) awd car, is inherently better than a heavier part time (twinster) awd Focus RS.

Time will tell, and we will see if the Focus RS has any impact in any form of racing (SCCA, Club level, or Professional). I suspect that it will not.

But I forget, racing isn't import to you. I am sure the Focus RS will be a fine daily driver.
You haven't driven the car. It's not even on the market yet. Nobody has tracked one or turned it into a track car. All of your comments are speculative crap that presumes failure on Ford's part.

Again, this isn't about "better". The Evo you so love hasn't been available for nearly a decade. The CT9A is dead. Hell, by your crappy logic, the Evo you love, the IX, is ****. Absolute garbage, because it weighs 500 lbs more than the first Evo I.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 10:29 AM
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Actually, the Evo I love is the VI. And just because a car is no longer made, does not mean it ceases to be relevant. As long as you can buy/restore/drive ___ car, its remains an option for a consumer.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
Actually, the Evo I love is the VI. And just because a car is no longer made, does not mean it ceases to be relevant. As long as you can buy/restore/drive ___ car, its remains an option for a consumer.
Doesn't matter, applying your own logic, the Evo IX, the car you drive, is garbage because it is a bloated pig compared to the Evo I.

The Evo IX is a 10 year old car, minimum. Comparing it to a brand new, off the lot Focus RS that has all the modern day amenities, safety equipment, and a warranty, is retarded.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 10:39 AM
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I never said the IX was too heavy. But yes, I do think its better when you take some weight out of it (as most track cars do). Its the Focus RS is the car that I think it too heavy. Even if you strip down a Focus RS, I think the no front diff and the twinster rear design is poorly suited to track use.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
I never said the IX was too heavy. But yes, I do think its better when you take some weight out of it (as most track cars do). Its the Focus RS is the car that I think it too heavy. Even if you strip down a Focus RS, I think the no front diff and the twinster rear design is poorly suited to track use.
Of course you didn't. I applied your ****ty logic and concluded that it was too heavy. You've spent page upon page complaining about the Ford RS and even compared it to the RS produced in the 90s. I have done the exact same thing with the Evo. If the RS is bloated, so is the Evo IX. It weighs 500 lbs more than the Evo I.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 10:46 AM
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Let me make it simple for you, IMO:
Evo IX > Evo I
Escort RS Cosworth > Focus RS

You are of course free to have your own opinions.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
Let me make it simple for you, IMO:
Evo IX > Evo I
Escort RS Cosworth > Focus RS

You are of course free to have your own opinions.
It's not my opinion. I am applying your arguments to the Evo. That is it. I am showing how retarded your argument is by applying it to the car you love because I knew you'd disagree with your own logic if it meant that the car you love was viewed unfavorable. That is exactly what has happened. You ***** about the RS and its weight, yet ignore the fact that the Evo has gained hundreds of lbs over its lifetime as well. The Evo IX is a bloated pig compared to the Evo I.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
It's not my opinion. I am applying your arguments to the Evo. That is it. I am showing how retarded your argument is by applying it to the car you love because I knew you'd disagree with your own logic if it meant that the car you love was viewed unfavorable. That is exactly what has happened. You ***** about the RS and its weight, yet ignore the fact that the Evo has gained hundreds of lbs over its lifetime as well. The Evo IX is a bloated pig compared to the Evo I.
Logic is lost on Nemsin...
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:03 AM
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You are attempting to oversimplify things. Weight is not the only factor. The IX has numerous advantages over the I that more than make up for the extra weight.

In my mind, the Focus RS does not have enough advantages over an Escort RS to outweigh (pun intended) the extra weight.

Focus RS has no front diff, is not full time awd, has a clutch based twinster rear diff that will have issues with heat and increased hp, and is heavy.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
I think the no front diff and the twinster rear design is poorly suited to track use.
Yea, the 2003-2004 Evo GSR sucked on the track.
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