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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 03:08 PM
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If Ford wasn't playing hide the ball with their results, then I might think differently. Ford won't even reveal the RS' curb weight. I guess once you take delivery, you get to find out how much it weighs. http://www.ford.co.uk/Cars/Focus-RS
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
If Ford wasn't playing hide the ball with their results, then I might think differently. Ford won't even reveal the RS' curb weight. I guess once you take delivery, you get to find out how much it weighs. http://www.ford.co.uk/Cars/Focus-RS
Are you intentionally being this bull-headed or are you just oblivious to your own posts?

There are plenty of numbers tossed out there, including independent weights of which you have been provided.

You're right, even on the US site, there is no curb weight listed.

http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/specifications/view-all/

Across the board, it's to be determined.

No, this doesn't mean Ford is "playing hide the ball" with the weight. No, it doesn't mean the weight is some insane number. No, it doesn't mean the RS is a bad car. It does means you're salty as **** when it comes to the RS.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 03:23 PM
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Ford is quick to highlight that 350hp number. Why not let prospective buyers know all the specifications?

Ford has tested the Focus RS on the ring on at least 2 separate occasions, yet "decided" not to post any results.

I just feel like someone in marketing decided what to reveal and what not to.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 03:28 PM
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I am still thinking it will be under 3500 lbs. There is not even a spare tire, (like the Evo X has)

Also I don't know if USA do require a different rear crash beam for the RS then other countries. LIke it was a case with the Evo's.

weight can be one explanation to have similar acceleration as the STI and slower than the R even though it has 350 HP and TQ.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
Ford is quick to highlight that 350hp number. Why not let prospective buyers know all the specifications?

Ford has tested the Focus RS on the ring on at least 2 separate occasions, yet "decided" not to post any results.

I just feel like someone in marketing decided what to reveal and what not to.
You sound like a damn Birther.

"Obama is quick to say he's an American, but why not let the American people scrutinize his medical records so they can confirm that for themselves?"

Most buyers don't care. Those that do know how to use Google.

Maybe, and this might come as a shock to you, they didn't release the results because they didn't have any actual flat out results. Maybe, just maybe, they were there testing the car so they can continue to develop it rather than doing a hot lap so internet warriors can fight over the results for the next century.

Another shocking revelation, the marketing guys decided not to brag about something as stupid as weight.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 03:35 PM
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So let me get this right, you think Ford took the RS to the ring and didn't see how fast it would go around? Seriously?

Ford has a private test track in Belgium. When you go to the Nürburgring, you bring a watch.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 03:37 PM
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So let me get this right, you think Ford took the RS to the ring and didn't see how fast it would go around? Seriously?
Yes, seriously. Lots of manufacturers use the Ring for testing. It's a public road after all. Doing a flying hot lap for bragging rights is a different ball game. Hell, that hasn't even possible recently.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 03:48 PM
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Well if Ford wants to be the hothatch king, they are going to have to show us something. So far all we have seen is the RS losing in a drag race to a Golf R and A45.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 03:57 PM
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Well if Ford wants to be the hothatch king, they are going to have to show us something. So far all we have seen is the RS losing in a drag race to a Golf R and A45.
You mean in this shootout?

http://www.topgear.com/car-news/big-...s-rs-vs-rivals

Did you even read the article? The reviewer liked the RS and attributed the drag race loss to the fact he had to manually shift the car.

Other reviews:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...lf-r-twin-test

Winner: RS

And it leaves an indelible enough impression to give the Focus RS a win over the Golf R – frankly, over almost anything through corners, if that’s the basis on which we’re judging this comparison. Don’t misunderstand: I’m far from unhappy to climb back into the Golf R for the return leg – probably happier, in fact. As a compromise, as an ownership proposition, the VW still takes a heck of a lot of beating. But as an occasion, as an event, a car for you to simply get into and drive the crackers off of it, the Focus RS is phenomenal.
But hey, don't let get in the way of your continued hatred for the RS because we all know that as enthusiasts, the only attribute we care about is the drag race.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 04:26 PM
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And it leaves an indelible enough impression to give the Focus RS a win over the Golf R – frankly, over almost anything through corners, if that’s the basis on which we’re judging this comparison. Don’t misunderstand: I’m far from unhappy to climb back into the Golf R for the return leg – probably happier, in fact. As a compromise, as an ownership proposition, the VW still takes a heck of a lot of beating. But as an occasion, as an event, a car for you to simply get into and drive the crackers off of it, the Focus RS is phenomenal. "

Sounds a lot like the EVo test conclusions before, doesn't it? lol
Still seems to me, the RS will be a proper replacement for the Evo on the market.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
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And it leaves an indelible enough impression to give the Focus RS a win over the Golf R – frankly, over almost anything through corners, if that’s the basis on which we’re judging this comparison. Don’t misunderstand: I’m far from unhappy to climb back into the Golf R for the return leg – probably happier, in fact. As a compromise, as an ownership proposition, the VW still takes a heck of a lot of beating. But as an occasion, as an event, a car for you to simply get into and drive the crackers off of it, the Focus RS is phenomenal. "

Sounds a lot like the EVo test conclusions before, doesn't it? lol
Still seems to me, the RS will be a proper replacement for the Evo on the market.
Well nothing will replace an Evo .....it is the first attempt for a domestic to introduce an AWD hot hatch into the international market.
It appears to be having a fairly good reception. Just no RS here yet.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 04:37 PM
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Well nothing will replace an Evo .....it is the first attempt for a domestic to introduce an AWD hot hatch into the international market.


But seems a really promising start on the MARKET ... lol the rest we will see around 2018.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 04:40 PM
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A little teaser...


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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 04:54 PM
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There goes one potential rival:

http://www.autospies.com/news/Volksw...selgate-88200/
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 05:13 PM
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I'm sure if the numbers were great at the Ring we would have heard about it. Looking at the Isle of Man video, I'm not sure where the Focus RS would find an advantage. Maybe stability is a greater asset there. Since this is an Evo forum, we know the Evo has proven itself in many different venues and types of racing etc. Expecting that, out if the gate, with the RS is unfair. But not unexpected given the spotlight and Ford's curtain of mystery.
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