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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 07:31 AM
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i am not saying you are the most who argued, Just def. one who interested, which makes perfect sense. Specially when it comes down to performance cars. No one really cares weight with other cars i know that.
Hence the reason why we drive tanks today.

But when it comes to performance cars, the numbers matters for most people, which is absolutely logical.
If i am right you have a miata. Which crowed specially about weights... lol
I don't care that much about the weight. What I do care about is people spreading misinformation.

Yes, I own a Miata. No, I don't care how much it weighs.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 07:35 AM
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Stop being Rob, Rob.

You can't even follow your own conversations and you don't even know who said what.

Just stop...

First you post:

Originally Posted by Robevo RS
Razor and Amby, you guys are one of those who argued the most about weights..
Then you post:

Originally Posted by Robevo RS
i am not saying you are the most who argued
If you can't even remember what you posted from a post ago, how do you expect anybody here to respect anything you say, stop with this drivel... it's like having conversations with a six year old sometimes.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Stop being Rob, Rob.

You can't even follow your own conversations and you don't even know who said what.

Just stop...

First you post:



Then you post:



If you can't even remember what you posted from a post ago, how do you expect anybody here to respect anything you say, stop with this drivel... it's like having conversations with a six year old sometimes.
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that is why i like to respond to you, feels like i am in a same league.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 08:07 AM
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Plenty of car enthusiasts care about weight. To think otherwise is naive. The Evo community was up in arms when the X got bigger and heavier than previous generations. This latest RS is WAY heavier than its racebred ancestors. But whatever, buy heavy cars if you want.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
that is why i like to respond to you, feels like i am in a same league.
Nice deflection.

I think it's about time I put your drivel on ignore.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 08:14 AM
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Nice deflection.

I think it's about time I put your drivel on ignore.
you said this many times, when you had to face the truth.
let see how long will take you, not to respond to my posts.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
This latest RS is WAY heavier than its racebred ancestors.
Once again, this thread delivers with unfounded and non researched statements.

MK2 Focus RS = 3230lbs
MK3 Focus RS = 3459lbs

MK3 adds four doors, AWD and 229lbs.

Also, almost the same weight gain as Evo CT9A to CZ4A, and we all know how much the CZ4A sucks... right?
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Once again, this thread delivers with unfounded and non researched statements.

MK2 Focus RS = 3230lbs
MK3 Focus RS = 3459lbs

MK3 adds four doors, AWD and 229lbs.

Also, almost the same weight gain as Evo CT9A to CZ4A, and we all know how much the CZ4A sucks... right?
I said racebred. The MK2 was fwd and did not compete in any racing that I know of. The old awd RS' that actually raced, weighed in under 2900 lb.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
I said racebred. The MK2 was fwd and did not compete in any racing that I know of. The old awd RS' that actually raced, weighed in under 2900 lb.
That wasn't a Focus. That was an Escort from 1992.

If you are really going back to cars without ANY modern safety devices then lets compare:

Evo 1 (1992) 2,7XXlbs
Evo 10 (2008) 3,4XXlbs

Escort Cosworth RS (1992) 2,9XXlbs
MK3 Focus RS (2016) 3,4XXlbs

WRX GC8A (1992) 2,7XXlbs
WRX (2016) 3,3XXlbs
STi (2016) 3,4XXlbs

VW Golf Rallye (1998) 2,6XXlbs
VW Golf R (2016) 3,3XXlbs

Maybe you need a time machine back to 1992.

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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 08:36 AM
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The Sierra RS was bigger than the Focus and still under 2900 lbs. Modern cars (can) use more aluminum than ever. What is all this safety equipment that weighs 700 lbs? Does Navi count as safety equipment too?
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 08:39 AM
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For f#ck's sake...
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
that is why i like to respond to you, feels like i am in a same league.
Because he points out your BS?
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
The Sierra RS was bigger than the Focus and still under 2900 lbs. Modern cars (can) use more aluminum than ever. What is all this safety equipment that weighs 700 lbs? Does Navi count as safety equipment too?
Sierra RS was RWD for most of it's life, the third generation added AWD and 220lbs. (notice a parallel here?)
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
Plenty of car enthusiasts care about weight. To think otherwise is naive. The Evo community was up in arms when the X got bigger and heavier than previous generations. This latest RS is WAY heavier than its racebred ancestors. But whatever, buy heavy cars if you want.
I didn't say that no car enthusiasts care about weight. I said most of the people buying this car don't care enough, and those that do are capable of simply googling the question.

By Evo community do you mean EvoM? Forums are a very small part of the market, and tend to overstate issues and concerns.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
I said racebred. The MK2 was fwd and did not compete in any racing that I know of. The old awd RS' that actually raced, weighed in under 2900 lb.
And that was what, 20 years ago? The first Evo weighed about 2700 lbs, so by your ****ty logic, the Evo IX is an absolute pig at 3200 lbs.
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