Head to head 4g63 on E85 vs stock Focus RS motor on pump, my money is on the RS' engine failing 1st.

 

E85 all the things

 

Who cares?

 

All the RS owners sweating that their engine is about to pop. Remember to check those coolant levels religiously

 

Who cares about whether the RS on pump gas is as reliable as a 4G63 car on E85?

 

Maybe someone thinking about switching platforms?

 

It's a speculative claim at best. There's no proof.

We're also talking about an extinct motor, that hasn't been put in a production car in the US or Canada since 2006.

But yeah, let's go down this rabbit hole again of comparing the RS to the no longer available Evo.

 

Stock RS's blow up, stock. The block fails, its a known, documented, problem.


It's a perfectly valid concern if someone owns one of those cars out of production since 2006 with an extinct engine car.

 

It's an obscure point regarding human behavior. I really didn't expect anyone to get it

 

You missed the point.

The claim was that an RS on pump gas was less reliable than a 4G63 on E85. That is a speculative claim. It's also a pointless claim - it's like comparing the reliability of a modern BMW to the reliability of a 1980s Lancia.

 

it was just the way you phrased it. Sounded like you were saying people who are using e85 would be more worried about the RS head problem. I think what you meant though was "You were willing to take that risk, so what kind of logic are you going to use to condemn taking this one".

 

That's what I meant. I find it interesting that people would be like, "hellz naw" at the idea of possibly having a warrantied engine going bad but won't think twice to run e85 despite the risks involved with that. Just interesting/thinking out loud about how we're willing to accept some risks (and out of pocket) but not others.

 

Personally not worried about it. If it happens it happens. It will suck if it does but hopefully under warranty and most likely by the time it is up a fix will have been found.

It is also not like this is happening to every RS owner. More than I would like to see for sure but not everyone or even the majority.

I do believe that Ford should step up and at least address the issue.

 

yah i get it now, but the situations are still not very analogous. By that i mean the way that the problems manifest, and the remedy to those problems are vastly different. To make an analogy of your analogy (anyone want a hit?), its like you are running a sports program and the risks are the doping program and the athletes chances of getting an injury. They are both completely different kinds of risks, but either way you wouldn't want to put an athlete through your program that has a higher risk of getting injured because of a genetic disorder regardless of the risks of the doping program.

 

Unless the athlete that was injured do to a genetic defect can be fixed under warranty and returned good as new. whereas when you lose the athlete to doping, you have to replace them out of your own pocket.