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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 05:13 PM
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Any speculation on engine and transmission layout? North south out east west? Proprietary or outsourced Awd components?

I think every Awd fiesta is done using north south with Sierra cosworth blood.

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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 05:24 PM
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 05:34 PM
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Really hoping this doesn't end up being a 45-50k car...
Wouldn't surprise me one bit.
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 06:36 PM
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A 2015 Mustang GT with all the performance bells and whistles is only $36K. If the Focus RS is $45-50K, it better have a seriously stout powertrain that can handle 600 whp without mods because nothing else about it will justify that price.
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
A 2015 Mustang GT with all the performance bells and whistles is only $36K. If the Focus RS is $45-50K, it better have a seriously stout powertrain that can handle 600 whp without mods because nothing else about it will justify that price.
The focus will run circles around a mustang. Not even in the same class.
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
The focus will run circles around a mustang. Not even in the same class.
Didn't mean to suggest that it was in the same class and not sure if it even matters for discussion on price. My point is that its hard to imagine that Ford would charge substantially more for a Focus RS than a Mustang GT that has all their latest technology with the exception of an AWD drivetrain. Sure the drivetrain is worth something, but an Ecoboost Mustang with features comparable to the GT is $8K less, so figure there is savings in the 2.3L Ecoboost motor that can be spent on drivetrain. I think that if they are going to be competitive with the AWD sports car market, they are going to have to come in at $35-38K MSRP. Or as I suggested before, the only way they would get away with $45-50K is if it was a total beast that was 600 whp ready.
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Old Oct 3, 2014 | 05:15 PM
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And what about Europe? I hope it's coming here too!
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Old Oct 3, 2014 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Didn't mean to suggest that it was in the same class and not sure if it even matters for discussion on price. My point is that its hard to imagine that Ford would charge substantially more for a Focus RS than a Mustang GT that has all their latest technology with the exception of an AWD drivetrain. Sure the drivetrain is worth something, but an Ecoboost Mustang with features comparable to the GT is $8K less, so figure there is savings in the 2.3L Ecoboost motor that can be spent on drivetrain. I think that if they are going to be competitive with the AWD sports car market, they are going to have to come in at $35-38K MSRP. Or as I suggested before, the only way they would get away with $45-50K is if it was a total beast that was 600 whp ready.
gotcha. i misunderstood your point. i suppose it seems odd to have a Focus priced higher than a mustang.. but our Evos were high-priced "Lancers". i'm not sure what the rate of inflation has been the past eight years.. but i gotta figure an Evo IX would be priced very high, in today's numbers.
i know that i, personally, would buy a Focus RS loooooooooooooong before a Mustang. i'd pay more for it, too. and i love mustangs.
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Old Oct 4, 2014 | 02:33 AM
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The problem with this thing is but whenever "AWD" and "Focus" is placed in same sentence, its always with motion of "will be" "is going to" and so on. Kinda sad.
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Old Oct 4, 2014 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
A 2015 Mustang GT with all the performance bells and whistles is only $36K. If the Focus RS is $45-50K, it better have a seriously stout powertrain that can handle 600 whp without mods because nothing else about it will justify that price.
That's a good point. I'm just wondering if they'll use some "But it's a super awesome edition" excuse to mark up the price.
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Old Oct 4, 2014 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PZ.eu
The problem with this thing is but whenever "AWD" and "Focus" is placed in same sentence, its always with motion of "will be" "is going to" and so on. Kinda sad.
same to be said for the lancer.
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Old Oct 4, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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same to be said for the lancer.
Whatever.
There's thousands of AWD Lancers, Ralliarts, Evos. We're still waiting for an AWD Focus. Looks like it's finally gonna happen. Still don't think I can buy a Ford; it's going to need to be spectacular for me.
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Old Oct 4, 2014 | 06:19 PM
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Stopped by VW to pick up some parts. The techs were standing around having a RS vs EVO vs STI vs R32 argument
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Old Oct 4, 2014 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
Whatever.
There's thousands of AWD Lancers, Ralliarts, Evos. We're still waiting for an AWD Focus. Looks like it's finally gonna happen. Still don't think I can buy a Ford; it's going to need to be spectacular for me.
I know they aren't production, but they've been doing some pretty decent AWD Turbo stuff the past few years.
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Old Oct 5, 2014 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
I know they aren't production, but they've been doing some pretty decent AWD Turbo stuff the past few years.
well lancer got to 10 gens of products. Whilst Ford stopped with 1 gen of Cosworth Sierras and Escorts, and Cosworth is now a Subaru tuner..
As for non-production, nobody cares about something you can't buy, they can only dream.
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