The escort is red, and I know him quite well. He ran a 13.2 at PIR last week(he was stoked!)

as far as that SRT-4...these are the mods for all you whiners

intake(its filter c'mon)
Upgraded TDO4H compressor wheel
no cat
3" exhaust
boost controller
PG LSD
proto-type Intercooler

www.neonparts.net <--its the black one pictured

and it made about ~280whp and ~320 ft lbs of torque

 

That's pretty good for about $2500 in mods, that's about 55whp over a stock Evo, and from those Videos, that Evo wasn't WOT.

I wonder how he'd fare against an Evo at a Rally or even Rallycross... That would be a good video!

How well do mud caked intercoolers work???

 

d00d get real. Power to weight ratio. Evo's run 13.7's stock on a good day with an excellent driver. SRT-4's run 14.0's under similar situations. With that much more power than stock...which mind you is a big JUMP and thats only peak power not mid-range! So..if you think about it for a while this SRT-4 is running 12's for sure. Mine pulls 13.2's with a boost controller, slicks, and a downpipe. which beats the EVO's and a local STi with exhaust and AFC. so....have any of you raced an STi? what were the results? how bad did it walk you? think of that....and then a whole lot more. because the neon shown in the video is FOR SURE a helluva lot faster than the one I have.

Think out side the box for a bit boys...and when something is faster than your cars...give it a thumbs up, dont pull out some ricer excuse that doesn't hold weight.

If you want to talk about dirt capabilties...GO LOOK UP THE RESULTS FROM ONE LAP OF AMERICA! and post them for everyone to see. Until you post that information, I dont want to hear **** about "rally this" "rally that" the truth is that your cars came with road tires on them...not rally tires.

 

About the compressor wheel... couldn't EVO do the same
upgrade? I thought both EVO & SRT use mitsu 16G turbo?

 

yeah TDO4H ~ 16g AFAIK call www.neonparts.net and ask him about it. his name is Jason....he also has that black car

 

Simmer down.. You're gonna pop a gasket.

With some mods an SRT-4 can be driven faster than a Stock Evo. Fine, sure. No argument.

The video though isn't even close to a full on WOT run from the Evo. Ok maybe with the mods the neon is faster, but not by 15 car lengths. that's all.

Good luck to you and enjoy going quick!

 

Exactly

 

Cumulative Overall Points as of - Sat May 10 01:08:07 2003
Page 1
Results sorted by position
Pos Car # Vehicle Class Points

1 2 chev MTI Z-07 SSGT1 6590
Ronald Adee, John Myrick
2 4 Chevy Corvette Z06 SSGT1 6525
John Boos, Ronald Marks
3 1 Dodge Viper SSGT1 6515
David Zelkowski, Brian Smith
4 3 RUF RGT SSGT1 6415
Gary Church, Paul Gerrard
5 8 Porsche 996 Twin Turbo SSGT1 6380
Mark DaVia, Chuck Veth

6 5 Toyota Supra Turbo SSGT1 5945
Andi Baritchi, Clint Pohler
7 20 CHEVROLET CORVETTE ZR1 SSGT1 5665
Scott Ahlgrim, Steve Ahlgrim
8 52 Dodge SRT-4 MidPri Sed 5595
Cory O`Brien, Erich Heuschele 9 10 Lamborghini Diablo SSGT1 5545
Karl H. Troy, Mike Appleby
10 50 Audi S-4 Luxury Sed 5315
Norman Babcock, Michael Babcock

11 34 Ford Probe GT SSGT2 5215
Greg Hagopian, Stacey Bertran
12 63 Subaru WRX Wagon MidPri Sed 5200
Luke Russell, Jeremy Snyder
13 43 Nissan 350Z SSGT2 5180
Carter Thompson, Jeremy Sweeney
14 73 Porsche 911 Vint For 5080
Glen Clarke, Louis Frlan III
15 6 Dodge Viper GTS SSGT1 5040
Alan Modzelewski, Tom Atherton

16 19 Mitsubishi Evolution MidPri Sed 5025
frank jordan, Jon Krolewicz, Brian Dowling
17 13 Ford Thunderbird MidPri Sed 4915
Ted Lyons, Mike Hurst
18 55 Subaru WRX MidPri Sed 4905
Tom Hoppe, Steven Rankins
19 14 BMW M5 Luxury Sed 4895
Roy Hopkins, Nancy Becker
20 72 BMW Bavaria Vint For 4830
Bill Arnold, Tamara Hull

21 28 Porsche 911 TT SSGT1 4825
Alan Tackman, Michael Curcio
22 7 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 SSGT1 4795
Rodney Sizemore, Rick Sizemore
23 23 BMW M Coupe SSGT1 4795
Ryan Catucci, Lawrence Leff
24 60 Subaru WRX MidPri Sed 4725
Stu Sacks MD, David High, DPM, Pearce Sloan, DPM
25 56 Lexus IS300 MidPri Sed 4495
Mark Love, Reg Riemer



 

Who cares!

 

you're out of your league. And you sig make no sense. And without knowing what mods were done to that neon (sorry, they always make me laugh) and the evo, your statement is meaningless, try again

 

And here is the brekadown just by for the mid priced sedan category:

MidPri Sed Cumulative Class Points as of Sat May 10 01:08:07 2003
Page 1
Results sorted by position
Pos Car # Vehicle Class Pts O/A Pts

1 52 Dodge SRT-4 1305 5595
Cory O`Brien, Erich Heuschele
2 63 Subaru WRX Wagon 1205 5200
Luke Russell, Jeremy Snyder
3 19 Mitsubishi Evolution 1150 5025
frank jordan, Jon Krolewicz, Brian Dowling
4 13 Ford Thunderbird 1120 4915
Ted Lyons, Mike Hurst
5 55 Subaru WRX 1120 4905
Tom Hoppe, Steven Rankins

6 60 Subaru WRX 1050 4725
Stu Sacks MD, David High, DPM, Pearce Sloan, DPM
7 59 Mitsubishi Evolution 8 990 4475
Mitch Farner, Ryan Farner
8 56 Lexus IS300 955 4495
Mark Love, Reg Riemer
9 53 Volkswagan GTI VR6 860 3855
Michael Potter, Raffi Kazanjian, Paul Grimes
10 62 Subaru WRX 770 3515
Jay Holeman, Dave Crockett

11 57 Volkswagan GTI 710 3040
Yarrow Thorne, Rudy Rouhana
12 54 BMW 325 535 2215
Victor Hall, Alex May
13 31 Subaru WRX 475 2015
Bill Ellsworth, David Ellsworth
14 66 Chevy Caprice 380 1395
Michael Demers, Richard Wells, Jon Martin
15 61 Chevrolet Caprice 335 1250
William Porter, Marie Porter

16 32 Volvo 740 Sedan 175 615
William Cook, Jon Dega, Richard Spicer
17 69 Chevelot Impala SS 5 0
Howard LaFever, Mark Grzella, David Campbell
18 58 BMW 316I -20 -100
DANNY ALVIS,


It's a great example of deep wallets... Congrats to all the participants supporting the tire and aftermarket tuner and parts industry!

 

One other thing with the One Lap of America results. These are not stock cars. the neon there was running 12s or nearly in 1/4 mile, just behind mod'd M5s.

It's nice to think a stock $20k car can run competitevly with cars that have twice the power stock and nearly 3 times the power once their ready to go play at the OLOA, but it isn't so.

That SRT was used as a great marketing tool for Dodge to highlight the car. It worked. Congrats, too bad it's led some people to believe some incredibly wrong things. I feel for the average SRT4 owner who thinks he is going to arrive at a track and "learn a few folks a thing or two".

But hey let people think whatever they want, it's their own life, and if they choose not to look into details to find out the truth, they deserve what they get for being naive.

Maybe Al will post some videos of what a 15 car length Evo win with both cars at WOT is really like. And it ain't cheap to have that kind of pull.

 

First of all that is one fast SRT4... Secondly, the EVO is just not that fast in the straight line, or at least mine is not that fast. The best I could get out of it was a 14.4XX @ 98 mph...... That's not fast in my book. I'm going to try a MBC and tune with the SAFC2 and see if I can get into the 13's but i have my doubts.... BTW, I have already a 3" cat back.
Oh yeah, at the dragstrip were several imports much quicker and faster than my EVO, including all motor Hondas and a couple of DSMs of earlier vintage. I'd say the EVO is faster than a stock WRX and probably a stock SRT4. I'm afraid the STi will woop *** on the EVO as well as lots of other cars. OTOH, in the twisties and the track, the EVO probably rules

Frankly, I was disappointed by the power of my EVO. I expected it to run in the 13s but it proved a second slower and that really sucks. As I said before, my GRS Integra with a Jackson Racing supercharger and no LSD or good tires would kill my EVO easily in the dragstrip..... The EVO is a very fine car and all, but it ain't the fastest by a long shot.

 

http://www.hyperlnks.com/escortgtx/EscortGTvsLancer.WMV

See this escort vs E8. Doesn't look good again. I'm not going to say if the escort guys will somehow come out of the woodworks.

I already knew when the E8 comes out. It was going to be fair games at the track. Heck, the car is still in its rookie year, and it will probably take a few more beating like this before tons of them can keep pace against some DSM'ers can do on the track.

Otherwise, it's not the end of the world.



http://www.trinituner.com/drags/2003/drags26-01-03.asp
Here's a vid on a skyline powered escort in another country.

 

To the guy that can only squeeze out a 14.4...either something is wrong with your car, or you have the reflexes of an 80 year old woman. The EVO is not the fastest car out there, but it's not that slow. Props tot he SRT-4's though. Great, cheap, fun, tunable car.