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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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SRT-4 holds 800hp on stock block? Please..... I know of one on full turbo upgrade and IC upgrade and runs race gas, and it's making 500whp. That's alot, but come on, 800hp? That's about 740whp. Even a supra can't make that power on pump gas. Well, we'll see how long that dodge engine will hold up. It's a great motor and capable of alot of hp, but none of us will know for sure until years later. Even at 500whp, that thing can't get traction to keep it on the road!!! It's useless to have that much power on a FF car. By the way, 2,500 will make an EVO a street monster from a dead stop. "lowness" spanked a modded cobra from the light about 3 cars length. Drag racing an evo is not a sound thing to do, but nonetheless, it's addictive. Soon, there will be many 400whp evo roaming the street. AWD is awesome for street racing. Traction baby!!!!! Maddd traction....By the way, me and my buddy took turn to spank this modded STI. Just like taking candies from little kids. Peace....
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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I agree, thats one of the downsides to the SRT - putting the power to the wheels without hop or spin. I have never driven, (but would like to) and EVO...I like the idea of AWD.

As for the Dodge engine, to my understanding this engine has been around since 94, so its been tested for quite some time now and shown to be reliable. It is NOT the same engine as a base Neon....I dont know, like you said...just have to wait it out and see....

<EDIT>: This is where I found the following quote:
"The SRT-4 drag teams are rumored to be making between 800 and 1200 hp on the stock crank (and stock block and bedplate), so we figure it's strong enough."

Source: http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr...0scc_projneon/

I also know of the 500 HP SRT-4, I have the video on my computer of the dyno run. The only thing that went on that run was the stock clutch...but there were no internal problems...and they are now in the process of getting 600 WHP....

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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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The SRT drag car is not street legal, so who cares what it does. There are sub 10 sec Civics non street legal. As for 500 WHP on the dyno, that's just it, on a dyno. Let's see what it does on the street. What good is all that power if you can't put it to the pavement. I suspect mad wheel hop and broken axles. It's overkill to have 500 hp on FWD. You won't be able to keep that power under control and steer the car. what a joke.

The Evo's strengths are its awsome handling and braking. The Evo stops quicker than a Ferrari Modena from 70 - 0. (C&D) It out slaloms many cars that are 3 to 5x its price. I still believe it will be a collectors car in the future, especially with very few being made and Mitsu may stop importing them or change the platform. We have the real deal straight from Japan right now, especially the RS coming.

If you're about dragging, skip the Evo, even though it does it well. It's really not made for it. BTW, we already have a 10 sec Evo courtesy of RNR. If you want a fast straight line car, don't pass up the 03-4 Cobra. It will eat SRTs all day. Pay an extra $30 a month and get the Cobra over the Mach 1. you will kick yourself later. Always, always get the top power option/motor in the car you buy. Buying a V6 Mustang is like buying a 3 legged chair.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by SinCityEvo
[B]The SRT drag car is not street legal, so who cares what it does. There are sub 10 sec Civics non street legal. As for 500 WHP on the dyno, that's just it, on a dyno. Let's see what it does on the street. What good is all that power if you can't put it to the pavement. I suspect mad wheel hop and broken axles. It's overkill to have 500 hp on FWD. You won't be able to keep that power under control and steer the car. what a joke.
My argument wasnt about being street legal, Im just making a point about the engine and what it can handle. Again, I dont have a complex about the SRT-4 - I think its a great, fast, fun car. For the most part Im seeing one sided opinions in here (which makes sense, this is an EVO forum). The EVO is not that amazing, yes, its a great car...but not what you guys are making it out to be! I may get flamed for that statement, but oh well.....
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by esarteefor


just to clarify

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1

they ran a 13.9 on an 04. I dont know enough about an RX-7 to say....all in all would probably be a good race with the numbers being so close...

not to mention the Rx-7 has probably lost a little of it's juice being that it's been ran into the ground for 11 years already. I don't think the people who are voting are taking into consideration that an SRT-4 is a brand new car and the RX-7 would be 11 years old.......as far as speed the SRT should take it stock because the RX-7 would probably not be running 13's still after 11 years of ragging.......and if you throw mods into the picture we know that the SRT pushes 400-500hp through stock internals reliably........and you still have a car that's NOT 11 years old......the SRT wins hands down. Getting the RWD doesn't make up for 11 years of wear and tear in my book.....not even close.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 09:07 AM
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I direct you to the Dynoflash forum and Al's trip in his 11 sec Evo. He drove thousands of miles and drag raced along the way without incident. How many cars can do several 11 second passes at the track and drive home. The Evo is an amazing machine with almost unlimited potential. With a properly tuned Evo, the SRT is a fading image in the rearview mirror. That 500 HP Neon will spin tires all the way down the track. Sorry, it's all about traction. End of story.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by SinCityEvo
I direct you to the Dynoflash forum and Al's trip in his 11 sec Evo. He drove thousands of miles and drag raced along the way without incident. How many cars can do several 11 second passes at the track and drive home. The Evo is an amazing machine with almost unlimited potential. With a properly tuned Evo, the SRT is a fading image in the rearview mirror. That 500 HP Neon will spin tires all the way down the track. Sorry, it's all about traction. End of story.
OK, its become obvious to me that talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. You have an extreme complex about the EVO. Again, I think its a great car. I have no need/reason to argue with you. With enough desire and deep pockets, any car can be fast.....

[yes, this is an EVO forum...but I at least expected some people to have an open mind about cars in general. I am not blinded by once car being better than another. I happen to drive an SRT-4, but all in all I love cars...all kinds. This thread is way off topic as is, and I am done posting. Peace!]
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by esarteefor


OK, its become obvious to me that talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. You have an extreme complex about the EVO. Again, I think its a great car. I have no need/reason to argue with you. With enough desire and deep pockets, any car can be fast.....

[yes, this is an EVO forum...but I at least expected some people to have an open mind about cars in general. I am not blinded by once car being better than another. I happen to drive an SRT-4, but all in all I love cars...all kinds. This thread is way off topic as is, and I am done posting. Peace!]
Any forum you go to you will get reponses like that... THe good thing is there are several strong choices out there, just go test drive them and see what suits you. I'd say another consideration would be if you are DIY'er or if you need a good shop to back you up.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 09:44 AM
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I'd get the evo but since you got a son on the way maybe you should get the srt and get him a nice bedroom set or something, and I dont know much about the stangs
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 09:55 AM
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Re: EVO, SRT-4, OR mach1?????????

Originally posted by VtecGSR952000
ALSO, i am a drag racer.....might auto-x someday for the fun of it, but more of a straight line racer.
Mustang for you. AWD is not the best choice for a drag car/ highway racer and the SRT will always be a neon.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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You're assuming that every RX-7 for sale has been beaten to the ground. You can find quite a few low mileage, stock, well-maintained 7s.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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Re: Re: EVO, SRT-4, OR mach1?????????

Originally posted by slt

Mustang for you. AWD is not the best choice for a drag car/ highway racer and the SRT will always be a neon.

again, I wish educated people would post. Im so tired of the childish "its still a neon".... ' oh yeah, well yours is still a lancer ' (said in a childish voice)...get real people.....
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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Re: Re: Re: EVO, SRT-4, OR mach1?????????

Originally posted by esarteefor
again, I wish educated people would post. Im so tired of the childish "its still a neon".... ' oh yeah, well yours is still a lancer ' (said in a childish voice)...get real people.....
Keep it real, your car looses alot of respect b/c its a neon. Its not deserved, but its definately true.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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Don't forget that the new Neon has a Quaife differential which is supposed to be terrific in minimizing torque steer. I'd buy the SRT in hearbeat if it weren't for the boy racer crap they slapped on it.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: EVO, SRT-4, OR mach1?????????

Originally posted by slt

Keep it real, your car looses alot of respect b/c its a neon. Its not deserved, but its definately true.
The issue at hand is LOOKS. yes, the chassis is built from the Neon, and yes, Dodge made the mistake to market it as a Neon SRT-4. They have since removed Neon from that name, because of the lack of reliability that the Neon name carries with it. The engine is NOT the same as a base Neon. I understand where you are coming from, that we lose respect from this aspect.
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