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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Biggiesacks
care to elaborate? Im not doubting you, I just want to know more.
Please don't. Head over to the RS thread, it's all over there. We don't want that starting all over again, in this one LOL
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 11:36 AM
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Yah ive been there, im not trying to rehash all the problems with the RS. Just specifically the marketing that the car didn't live up to. Its one thing to have defects, its another to not do what the company said it could.

Said another way, What claims did Ford make about the car that did not turn out to be true.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 11:53 AM
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None, but I'm sure we'll get 10 pages of how the RS is a rolling POS even though it gets good reviews, including from Evom members.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggiesacks
What claims did Ford make about the car that did not turn out to be true.
Ford marketed the Focus RS as a track ready car. Turns out it has heat management issues which essentially turn off the RDU. Turning it into a fwd focus that asks too much of the front wheels, thus eating up the tires. http://www.vorshlag.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8453
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
None, but I'm sure we'll get 10 pages of how the RS is a rolling POS even though it gets good reviews, including from Evom members.
Brilliant reviews from the magazines that took about a year to be tempered by actual seat time (see ride quality).

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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
Ford marketed the Focus RS as a track ready car. Turns out it has heat management issues which essentially turn off the RDU. Turning it into a fwd focus that asks too much of the front wheels, thus eating up the tires. http://www.vorshlag.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8453
Thats not a link to any Ford marketing material. Could you please link something from ford?
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggiesacks
Thats not a link to any Ford marketing material. Could you please link something from ford?
There is a ton of marketing out there from Ford. Here is just 2 examples:

"The Ford Performance All-Wheel-Drive System intelligently distributes power for maximum benefit, both front and rear as well as left and right. And with four different driving modes, including "Track" and "Drift"1, you can dominate the course no matter the mood you're in." http://www.ford.com/performance/focu...170619203137:s

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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 01:52 PM
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Oh no! A manufacturer wrote a marketing statement that speaks favorably of their own car in an effort to make the car appealing to the market segment they're trying to sell to!
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 02:03 PM
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Lol some of you guys are insufferable.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 02:27 PM
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Lol some of you guys are insufferable.
lol this is nothing compared to the arguments i have with my bowtie friends. I mean come on pushrods?? what century are we in again...

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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
There is a ton of marketing out there from Ford. Here is just 2 examples:

"The Ford Performance All-Wheel-Drive System intelligently distributes power for maximum benefit, both front and rear as well as left and right. And with four different driving modes, including "Track" and "Drift"1, you can dominate the course no matter the mood you're in." http://www.ford.com/performance/focu...170619203137:s
And the failed claim being? It does in fact have awd and 4 different drive modes right? I guess im just not understanding what you mean. I get they are giving the impression that the car is a high performance car that you can take to the track, although i didn't ever see that claim actually made. If your talking about the non-legally binding marketing jargon then yah i guess if i can't "dominate the course" while also experiencing severe depression then you are correct.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 02:39 PM
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Ford hurt his feelings and now he wants them to pay.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 02:43 PM
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Ford hurt his feelings and now he wants them to pay.
Those are the gt350 Bros.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggiesacks
And the failed claim being?
They release the car at Festival of speed, doing a Hill climb event with Ken Block driving. They release videos highlighting how well the car performs on track. They say the All-Wheel-Drive System intelligently distributes power for maximum benefit, both front and rear as well as left and right.

In reality: When pushed the rdu heats up and shuts off. Then all the power goes to the front wheels, which has an open diff. Guess how well the car handles then.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
They release the car at Festival of speed, doing a Hill climb event with Ken Block driving. They release videos highlighting how well the car performs on track. They say the All-Wheel-Drive System intelligently distributes power for maximum benefit, both front and rear as well as left and right.

In reality: When pushed the rdu heats up and shuts off. Then all the power goes to the front wheels, which has an open diff. Guess how well the car handles then.
To be fair, those two paragraphs are unrelated.

One is a claim of what the car can do. The other is an alleged result of doing it too much.
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