Even the Focus RS and CTR customers won't give a crap about 22 seconds on an 8 minute lap, especially when they're two very different cars. I wouldn't buy the CTR because I live where we get several feet of snow overnight; a low-slung FWD track special isn't much fun in a Canadian winter.

On the other side, I don't think the RS is attractive if you live in Arizona and never have to worry about traction.

I have no idea what you mean by:

"i kind of remember about you def, talking seconds on track between cars very strongly lol what happenned?".

 

all what you say here, for me the electric E-brake would be a deal breaker.

And i do actually like the way it looks lol

They wight is important but not that much, if the car delivers... Like the GT-R for an example.

 

Yea the looks are for sure growing on me.

I look forward to seeing how it transforms visually with lower offset and wider wheels, slightly lower and upgraded catback.

 

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...ree-tailpipes/

 

pretty sure you're not asking me specifically, but here's my take on these

How about the steel rear suspension arms on the Type R?
personally don't really care all that much, it didn't really bug me on the RS either. I don't think you can find forged aluminum arms on any fwd car (could be wrong)

What about the electric e-brake?
its BS and who ever invented it should burn in hell

what about the 0-60 time?
I haven't cared about 0-60 times since I started driving. I do like to hit 60 in 2nd gear though, anyone know if the CTR is capable of this?
General off the line performance I don't really care about either since I don't really race like this. Even when I had a Mustang with its live rear axle and all, I only took it to the drag strip once.

What about it weighing approx 200 lbs more than the Civic SI? Or 100 lbs plus more than a GTI?
extra weight blows... 200lb is a lot over the Si, I'm curious where they found it. the 1.5L engine can't be 150lb heavier than the 2.0 can it? I can see 50 or so between the bigger wheels/brakes and wing.

 

If the Type R is really 200 lbs heavier than the SI, I really want to know why...

 

Per hondas site, 211 lbs heavier than the SI:

2017 Honda Civic Type R (4dr) :
Curb Weight: 3117
Weight Distribution: 61.8%/38.2%

2017 Honda Civic SI (4dr) :
Curb Weight: 2906
Weight Distribution: 60.3%/39.7%

I believe the Type R even has an aluminum hood?

 

That's one heavy turbo/intercooler setup.

The GTi is only 3000lbs?

 

the Si is a 1.5L turbo...

 

And the R is even more front-biased/out of balance.

 

2017 Golf GTI (4dr):
Curb Weight: 3082
Weight Distribution: 61%/39%

Cast iron block too.

 

but its got that ricer functional wing to balance things out at speed

 

I'm sure that'll inspire the wannabe racers on the highway.

 

so 35lb lighter... basically negligible

 

wannabe highway racers aren't really affected by f/r weight balance at this power level unless its like 90/10