I hope Honda does make an awd CTR with a version of the Acura SH-AWD.

 

Somewhere, back in the RS thread, I detailed the benefits of the SH-AWD over the Focus AWD.

 

I like the Civic R, the Golf R, and the Focus RS. I'd take whichever I got a good deal on and could get my hands on at the right time. All great cars that I could leave alone and enjoy stock, with a warranty. Lack of headaches would be aaaaaaaaawesooooooooome.

 

But would you track any of them. If so, would it void your warranty? I have read they can tell from your ecu if you have been at high rpms for extended periods of time.

Focus RS "The vehicle Warranty may not cover mechanical failure or damage caused to your vehicle as a result of track use." http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Fo...ngEnabled=True

CTR "The warranties in this booklet do not cover: - Use of the vehicle in competition or racing events." http://owners.honda.com/Documentum/W..._KA__FINAL.pdf

 

That applies to every new car. I wouldn't track any of them because I'm not willing to risk a brand new car that I can't walk away from financially. There's a reason why the last car I tracked was a 99 Miata.

I guarantee you that Mitsubishi and Subaru would also deny a warranty claim if the damage was attributable to racing.

 

GM covers track use for certain cars... I'm not sure if Ford does officially, but there was that one incident shortly after the GT350 was released where one caught fire and burned down completely at a track and Ford gave the guy a new car. But that could just be cause it was so public. and for the record that car had long tube headers and I think a tune... don't quote me on the tune part...

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intake, lt headers, and tune... and they give him a GT350R to replace the regular GT350

http://jalopnik.com/holy-****-a-ford...-fi-1784671243

 

That means nothing. That means the warranty in my F150 would have been voided for towing, being at high rpm and shifting a lot going up twisty mountain roads.


They have to be able to prove the car was on track, IE, photo's..

 

Not true. For instance "Camaro Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser lit up the internet back in April when he told Kirk Bell at Motor Authority that the warranty on the new sixth-generation 2017 Chevy Camaro covers the car on the race track. However, there are restrictions. The car must not be modified and it must be an SS model or above." http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/owner...BBnb7Kz#page=3

Imo, if they market a car as being track ready, with a track mode setting, it is BS to then deny a warranty claim for using their product as advertised.

 

No, I have the Evo for that. If i didn't, and needed a car to also do track duty, then I'd not not consider the VW at all. Between the Civic and RS... I'd have to weigh options. I've test driven an RS.. would need to try the Civic.

 

Really? Seems to me if they say something like "the car was obviously tracked" and deny the repair, you are left holding the bag.

Also, I think they can get you on "improper use" which is also mentioned in the warranty, i.e., that at-near redline for 10+ minutes is misuse of the product.

 

Ok, it applies to the majority of new cars. I'm sure you know the point I'm making.

Both Mitsubishi and Subaru denied claims on their "rally bred" cars.

 

Then you lawyer up. The fact that a company can refuse work does not mean it is reasonable for them to refuse work.

 

I have a friend fighting with Ford right now. Lawyer is involved. And he never raced it. Just basic driving. I can only imagine the funzies after racing...

 

Even if you find a lawyer willing to take such a case, you still have to pay him. In the end your attorneys fees will likely be more than the cost of the repair. You would have to prove bad faith to try to get a court to award attorney fees on top.

 

Most people that say you should "lawyer up" on the internet haven't actually gone through the process.

Reality changes things.