Ohlins good, MCS good but cost a good amount more. Although the 1way MCS aren’t crazy.

You can also just do HKS sleeve springs and that would give you the clearance for wider square wheels.

It’s not spring length that is the issue, but the diameter.

I highky recommend the project mu club racers for track use that don’t sound like a freight train on the street. It’s what I use and so far they have been great on track and half the price of the more popular CSG pads.

I use endless fluid and I’ve been happy with it, I like it better than SRF i used in the evo.

I would also pick up a Verus master cylinder brace. Makes a huge difference in brake feel. That’s my one gripe with the supra, the brake feel is lacking.

 

Naw, I'm not tuning, that's what I told them. I don't know that I'll need more power to go as fast as I want. Luckily I have lots of other things to try first.

Thanks for the summary. Spring sleeves seem an easy enough first step. I'd rather do that and buy wheels once than buy narrower wheels now and have to swap again once I save up for coilovers.

 

Not what I said, but the effort to create the mk5 was still absolutely lower compared to them redesigning a car and drivetrain from the ground up (mk4). In such cases of collaborative car development I just don't think there should be a one trans option available or issues like severe wind buffeting. Did they even test drive the car with the windows down? Lol I get the MT market is dwindling and arguably niche which doesn't justify the additional R&D, but they are developing it now coincidentally after the new Z was confirmed to have a MT option. Again, they seem lazy and decided to go 90% with the car IMO..

FWIW, I like the car and Im glad Toyota made it. I just get frustrated when car companies completely abandon us die hard stick shift guys and don't offer a manual option. Its 2022, not 2060 and the car has 400hp, not 800 lol

 

Okay, we get it, you think Toyota is lazy, even though they finally came back after decades of a snooze fest with four high performance cars that are actually great. Supra GR, 86 GR, Corolla GR, Yaris GR. Super lazy, or should I say Supra Lazy.

Bringing up the buffeting issue? Really? Have you driven a Porsche before? Seems you just want to argue and cherry pick things. The Supra internet hate is so old and stale...

Meanwhile, I'm enjoying my half priced GT4 killer.

 

Another reason I haven't tuned the car yet is the car is deceptively fast, even with stock power. I contribute that to the trans gearing and shifting, and the broad power band. You can match or beat GT4 times with stock power and a well setup chassis and tire package.

See if you can get a ride in a HKS sleeved Supra. It might be too soft for you. That said, the Supra doesn't need crazy rates to be fast. I'm currently running 550f/500r, and with the MCS coilovers, the car rides wonderfully, and soaks up everything on track. I've had the car two wheels in the air launching off curbing and it still didn't upset the car.

@Lumpy Sticks is running the Ohlins, you can ask him how he likes them.

 

I tried the whole lowering springs on stock shocks and it just didnt work. They are valved way too soft and most of the aftermarket springs are too soft. The Ohlins are night and day better. Going from lowering springs and RT615s to Ohlins and RT660s, I went from running mid pack to being up with the top guys now. The car is also 1000x more predictable and can really be thrown into turns hard now. I would honestly just jump straight into coilovers.

Looks like there is a set of Ohlins in stock in Vegas that I can get for you. PM me for pricing and such if interested.

 

If you are looking at Ohlins, I highly recommend also looking at MCS 1-way.

I think the Ohlins are around $3,000 and the MCS 1-way are right around $3,800 and don't reuse OEM tophats in the rear.

You'll want front camber plates and end links for both, neither of them come with them. So same cost there for either package.

Another thing to note is that the MCS are available in a true rear coilover conversion which makes rear adjustments WAYYYYY easier. Ask @Lumpy Sticks how much fun he had setting ride height with the divorced springs.

 

Perfect for the discussion we had above. Sums it up well.

 

And I just happen to make the part to make the Verus camber plates work with Ohlins!

We do not speak of setting the rear ride height.....

 

Hanging with a GT4 is good enough for me.
​​​​​ Sounds like suspension is getting pricey. When isn't it, though, I guess? It will probably cost what I was gonna spend on wheels and tires, anyway. I think a better result, though.

I dunno. Those MCS sound so much easier to mess with.

P.S. I remember spending a bunch of time looking for a base model Supra. It turns out mine is. I have the gray brakes, no heads up, no heated seats, etc.

 

Yea, grey brakes is the dead giveaway. Same brakes as premium though, just not painted red. I also think the rear brake rotors on 21+ are the same as premium, but I could be wrong.

 

I'm finding conflicting information. Some say the premium has larger rear brakes, some say they're the same. I know they seemed to work really well last weekend

 

Same rear brakes. Its just 4 cyl that gets the smaller stuff now.

Edit - wait you dont have heated seats? I thought the 4 cyl was the only one that didnt get that. I was pretty sure the 3.0 base seats were the same as the premium, just not full leather.

 

My seats are leather/alcantara. Very nice.

 

I know 100% for a fact the 2020 non-premium got smaller rear rotors for some stupid reason.