So they're only making 500 MT Supras?!

https://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehi...rsupra-a91-mt/

Not that I was really serious about buying one right now, but it's the only new car that excites me these days. They are probably all going to be snatched up by collectors at exorbitant prices and stashed away for 30 years.

These sound amazing with the Tomei Ti! It would be my first mod tbh even though a loud CBE with little power gains is kind of ricer lol At least you'll save some weight

 

500 of the A91 edition for 2023. The normal 2023 supra is available in both auto and manual. However many they make.

Ironically they will sell few manuals as most people crying about the lack of the manual still won't buy a supra.. because internet.

 

Backing up isn't really an issue between the mirrors and the backup camera. The real issue I have is left turns. If I am too far forward on a left turn I can't see **** out the right of the car. I almost got annihilated the first month I had the car. Now I remember to stop a little short of an intersection if I am turning left so I can still see any oncoming traffic.

Also, you have to duck down at some stoplights to see if the light turns green since the front windshield is the height of a ship port hole.

It's a substantial change from big green house sedans but I got used to it. After a track day weekend, when I hop back into the GTI, I feel like I am driving a bus.

 

The car sounds okay, but I really need a decent exhaust. I'll enjoy driving the car a lot more if I can hear it a bit better.

While driving the car the night before last, I was noticing and commenting to my friend how tiny the windshield is. It is super small LOL

 

Thats good news, less surface area for rocks to break your windshield.

 

It was lazy of them not to offer it imo, especially since they just had to go to the BMW parts bin to make it happen. Again, I'm not at all serious about getting one but it does change my attitude towards the car from a hard no to a maybe someday. I'm still kind of in this 4-door family race car mindset which is why I bought the Evo, but a modern, balanced RWD platform with a 400hp I6 turbo and a 6 speed is just so tempting.

And I'm not ******* on anyone that got the auto as I'm aware the trans is good I'm just a die hard stick shift guy. I passed my driving test in a manual trans car 17 years ago and have been driving them ever since.

 

I have two cars that are MT. I would not prefer a MT for the Supra. I actually like the paddles in this case.
if I only had one toy, I'd probably prefer MT. Maybe.

 

Tell me you don't know how new car development works without telling you don't know how new car development works.

If only it was that easy. Plus, you literally admitted you aren't going to buy one now, even though you probably said you would if it had a manual.

I've driven manual for 30+ years. Years of driving manual has nothing to do with it.

 

msglenth

 

That is not lazy to me. That takes a ton of money and time.

Did you make the same statement about the new C8 corvette?

I owned two automatic performance cars in my 30's. A Mitsubishi and a VW.

I currently own two automatics and one manual.

Yes, I disliked the Supra when it first came out before I had seen one in real life or driven one. As soon as I saw how much better they look in real life I was interested but the fact that it was a "slushbox" still made me suss. Then I drove it and that all went out the window. Then I saw how fast they could be on track, how stout the motor was and how easily it could make power and I bought one.

Ironically the Supra is the longest it's taken me to tune a car ever. It's still stock power wise but as fast as a GT4 on track. I was actually seriously thinking of a GT4 before this but the Supra has fulfilled what I wanted from the GT4 at about half the price. I read Toyota was targeting the Cayman when they developed the Supra. I say they accomplished that and more.

I also would still pick the auto over the manual if I was looking at supras now. It's that good.

 

In 2022 there really is no performance or reliability case to be made for a manual transmission. Really it's about the kind of experience you want to have, and how much performance/consistency/reliability you are willing to sacrifice to get it.

*IMO

 

My windshield broke sitting still in a parking lot. They are very fragile.

 

Nailed it. Autos are now faster. Manuals are more fun.
Normally I'm 100% on the "fun" side, but the Supra managed to sway me. I NEVER thought I'd by an auto sports car.
But I also think it's only fair to reiterate this is not my only car, so I can row gears any time I want.

 

As long as noone can HEAR its an auto, i'm fine with it. I dont like the CVT on the latest Hyundais, local competition also had problems with the Cayman's (PDK?) on autox

 

A couple months ago I had 5 manual trans vehicles. Now I have 0.... No more fun for me