I saw a car company that borrowed a chassis and drivetrain from another car company and didn't offer the one option that has embodied the spirit of performance driving since the beginning of time: a manual transmission...and a manual transmission that was in the BMW parts bin the whole time. That's lazy to me.

 

So, this goes back to my comment before. Toyota did not "borrow" from BMW, the new Supra and Z4 where co-created. The Supra feels very different than the Z4. Toyota did a lot of their own tweaking to the Supra in addition to the co-creation of both cars. A great example here is that the steering rack in the Supra is the exact same rack from other BMWs but I can tell you from experience it feels COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, in all the good ways. They also did a full break-down of the B58 engine and BMW updated the B58 via their input, among a lot of other things.

Same thing with the manual trans. Yes, it's bits and pieces from the parts bin but they DID NOT just take a manual from some other car and slap it into the Supra. The manual in the Supra is different than any manual in a BMW. They also reprogrammed the diff, steering, and suspension for the manual. They also had to redesign interior parts to fit the manual properly and make it more ergonomic. The whole center area is different.

None of the above is lazy. I suggest you do some more research around how the A90 Supra came to be. Do you say the same things about the BRZ/86 Twins?

 

AFAIK there was no manual B58 platform to borrow from. That's why they had to come up with a solution, not just drop something in.

 

The 340i was avail in manual and B58

 

I have two. The Evo may be going, but my "fancy" car is a rare 6spd and it's staying forever.


Even sound limits affect different transmission types, from what I've read. The article said manual transmission cars usually get taller gearing to keep the sound down, which also makes them slower than automatic and acceleration terms.
SO much goes into any change made to a car. It's mind boggling

 

In RWD?

 

I believe both RWD and AWD.

I think 2019+ is when they stopped offering manual

 

Huh, wonder why I thought that. Must have misread some article or something.

 

I could be wrong. I do see xDrive 340i manuals for sale though on my quick search.

In all honesty, before buying the Supra, I didn't know much about modern BMW's apart from the M cars. I think if I knew there where AWD B58 3 series since 2016 I probably would have bought one.

 

Holy crap, about 120pgs. I tried to search the thread, but got 500 hits for anything I entered
Down and dirty: What's a good coilover? I looked for Ohlins at Performance Shock, but didn't see anything (I assume I want custom spring rates). Looks like a 10" wheel is an easy way to go square now, but I can do a bit more with the coilovers, if I go with shorter springs.
Other than that, I'll look to do brake pads (though these never faded at WTLS... WTF..??) and fluid for now.
Tires?
I'll also do an exhaust for fun noises, but that's about it. I want to see where that will get me. I'm thinking I'll have a TON of fun and won't even have to tow it to the track if I don't wanna.

 

Consider these: Make sure to get the Swift springs & the radial bearing kit
They will custom valve these to your wild driving style & provide the dyno sheet as well

 

I have someone trying to get me on this. Seems suspect. Lol
https://www.protuningfreaks.com/prod...ota-supra-tune

 

I mean to be fair the 86 twins are a lot more alike than the Z4 and Supra are... does anyone not say that about the 86 twins? in the new gen the only differences are the front knuckle material and how the rear sway bar is mounted... and spring rates. otherwise they're identical. (sorry, just pointing out this isn't a good example of the point you work making)

 

I used them as an example because they where also co-created together. Toyota didn’t just grab a platform and stick toyota emblems on it.

 

I thought you said you where going to keep the ecu stock? Lol

Either way, you probably have a locked 21 and would need to send the ecu off and spend a lot of money to tune it.

Bootmod3 is used by hundreds of people, it’s solid. I actually bought it as its the only platform that offers full self tuning. I just haven’t used it yet as I wanted to do this whole season at stock power.