Mk V Supra - My Evo's Replacement?

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Jun 23, 2022 | 10:50 AM
  #1636  
Quote: If anyone is curious, I finally got around to datalogging my stock tune 2020 Supra.

Pretty solid tune for stock mapping. Like most modern DI cars, it basically runs stoich AFR at WOT, even through all the gears. I'm going to assume based on looking through the ROM that it richens up when under repeated WOT like on track. I haven't logged the car on track yet but plan to.

My car hits about 14-15psi peak and drops down to around 10-11psi out the top. This is slightly higher than I have heard of for a 2020, but since the car is torque target based, actual PSI depends on a bunch of factors.

Ignition timing is about 3* to 15* out the top during a 4th gear pull.

The ECU uses the throttle plate as one form of torque management in stock form. It's pretty active as you can tell from the logs, especially the multiple gear WOT logs.

4th gear WOT log:
https://datazap.me/u/razorlab/2020su...11-13-23-28-30



Through the gears log:
https://datazap.me/u/razorlab/2020su...-30&zoom=32-96
Help me here. How does the car keep a stoich a/f ratio under boost with no issue?
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Jun 23, 2022 | 11:18 AM
  #1637  
Fast burning combustion chamber designs, better fuel atomization though improved charge air swirl and tumble characteristics, and higher fuel pressure from direct injection all make the fuel less knock prone because they make the fuel/air charge more consistent through the combustion chamber and have less combustible end gases,
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Jun 23, 2022 | 11:20 AM
  #1638  
I wish my graph looked that smooth. I am running into a weird issue right now where its cutting boost on me. You can really feel it closing and opening the throttle. Stock map is fine but my modded one freaks out. Here is a 3rd gear pull of it freaking out.



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Jun 23, 2022 | 11:42 AM
  #1639  
Quote: I wish my graph looked that smooth. I am running into a weird issue right now where its cutting boost on me. You can really feel it closing and opening the throttle. Stock map is fine but my modded one freaks out. Here is a 3rd gear pull of it freaking out.
Welcome to the crap-tastic world of JB4. It's really garbage. I ran a JB4 on one of my VW's for a hot minute and the drivability was so bad no matter how much I tried to fine tune.

Is the boost here Absolute or Gauge?
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Jun 23, 2022 | 12:42 PM
  #1640  
Quote: Welcome to the crap-tastic world of JB4. It's really garbage. I ran a JB4 on one of my VW's for a hot minute and the drivability was so bad no matter how much I tried to fine tune.

Is the boost here Absolute or Gauge?
Ya I know. I am working on getting a different ecu but I have spent way too much money this month on my house, Supra and buying another car....

That is gauge PSI you are seeing! It hits the built in safety and freaks out. Its suppose to be 19-20psi peak. No idea why it started spiking boost. I literally changed nothing and didnt work on anything in the engine compartment.
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Jun 23, 2022 | 02:12 PM
  #1641  
*if I get a Supra, leave the ECU stock. Check.
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Jun 23, 2022 | 02:45 PM
  #1642  
Ich würde denken, dass Dinan gut wäre, wenn man bedenkt, dass es ein BMW ist. Habt ihr etwas davon gehört?

https://www.dinancars.com/products/s...arts/D440-0168
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Jun 23, 2022 | 02:49 PM
  #1643  
Quote: Ich würde denken, dass Dinan gut wäre, wenn man bedenkt, dass es ein BMW ist. Habt ihr etwas davon gehört?

https://www.dinancars.com/products/s...arts/D440-0168
Piggyback. Same crap.

It's also the same product that Titan sells, relabeled RaceChip product. We all know how awesome RaceChips are. :P
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Jun 23, 2022 | 03:08 PM
  #1644  
Quote: Piggyback. Same crap.

It's also the same product that Titan sells, relabeled RaceChip product. We all know how awesome RaceChips are. :P

Sad, that sure seems like a regression. I used an app on my phone to load a >1GB firmware update for the X5. I would think that would make an easy attack vector for modding these things.

It would be cool to just download an app to your phone and bam you can tune the car.
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Jun 23, 2022 | 03:16 PM
  #1645  
Quote: Sad, that sure seems like a regression. I used an app on my phone to load a >1GB firmware update for the X5. I would think that would make an easy attack vector for modding these things.

It would be cool to just download an app to your phone and bam you can tune the car.
All the flashing software does that now. Ecutek, MHD, Bootmod3

The logs I posted above where logged on my iphone wirelessly over WIFI from my Supras obd2 port.

Bootmod3 even has a web-based ROM editor. Here is a screenshot from my current ROM:


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Jun 23, 2022 | 03:35 PM
  #1646  
dbl post
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Jun 23, 2022 | 03:35 PM
  #1647  
Quote: All the flashing software does that now. Ecutek, MHD, Bootmod3

The logs I posted above where logged on my iphone wirelessly over WIFI from my Supras obd2 port.

Bootmod3 even has a web-based ROM editor. Here is a screenshot from my current ROM:

That's f'n awesome! Thanks for sharing, I clearly need to spend more time learning about the new stuff.

If anyone happens to know Colby, tell him to do an openport 3.0 w/ all these goodies.
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Jun 24, 2022 | 12:59 PM
  #1648  
Quote: I tried pretty hard to do that but wound up going with wider fenders. Now i'm doing the wyze arms which wern't really around when the evo was being sold.
What are these? I can't find anything on google.
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Jun 24, 2022 | 05:35 PM
  #1649  
Quote: What are these? I can't find anything on google.
https://www.wisefab.co.uk/wisefab-mi...nsion-kit.html
These guys made it first then i think dallasj on here has a version stateside.
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Jun 27, 2022 | 10:04 AM
  #1650  
Got me another race car over the weekend.


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