Problem is with the 911 is not purchase price but maintenance price is insane. Would love a cup car and they are priced really well but ongoing costs are stupid

 

Seems most OTS tunes run rich, which a cat wouldn't like.
I also swapped to a high flow cat downpipe so that I could save my OEM part. I really like the sound, and I like the idea of saving my parts, but the CEL is driving me nuts.

 

I was just in a track group discussion about running costs. There was a guy with a 911 GT3 that recently purchased a M2C to move to lower running costs. He figured out the GT3 running costs per event for him where $1,100. *Just* the running costs, not event admission, transportation, hotel, etc

 

Is that really much more than what some of us do now? I've never figured fuel for my truck costs, trailer maintenance, I do track day insurance, about 20 to 25 gallons of e85, plus all of my consumables. I'm really curious to add it all up and divide it out to see what it comes out to per event. I can tell you that it's probably close enough to what the dude and the Porsche was paying to make it worth it. I would get a **** ton of excitement out of doing HPDE and a GT3. That's just my opinion, as a GT3 is my, personal ultimate HPDE car.

 

JUST running costs. Not transport there, not event fees, not hotel. JUST the running costs for lapping the car.

The entry fees + insurance is a whole other thing. I put mine all together from this season and it was very eye opening. In retrospect, paying for a year insurance package would have saved me about $1,200. I just had PTSD from the Evo thinking the car would break halfway through and I would be out a bunch of money.

If we do the math here, just fees + insurance cost me $1790/month for 7 months, or an average of $627 a track day.

This is not factoring in hotel fees, although I don't do that for Lime Rock, which is good, because LRP entry fees are $$$$. Or fuel to/from and on track. Or tire costs.

 

This is why I like auto-x. My yearly track cost is $1200 for the season pass and $1600 in tires. Thats it. No track insurance or brake pads needed.

 

Not to get into the whole seat time autox vs track rat debate AGAIN, but I wonder if the per mile cost basically ends up being the same, if not more for autox.

 

Dear baby jesus. Please no.

 

Rough estimate says my tires last around 240 auto-x miles, which is the entire season. So what, that would be $11.66 per mile? I heat cycle out the tires before the tread is gone.

 

To be accurate, we would need to figure out miles driven per event, and divide that by your annual consumable cost.

I think this will be hard to compare unfortunately. Would be interesting though.

I had 19.1 hours of seat time this season. Would be a chore to figure out how many miles. I am actually surprised the Catalyst app doesn't do that. It only tells me per session. Would take awhile to add them all up.

Lime Rock, which is a pretty short track, is showing me about 20 miles per session.

Did I drive more miles in one session than your whole season of autox? ;P

 

Thats basically what I did. Most of our courses are right at a mile per lap. 20 laps per day and 12 race days a year. So ya, you basically do as much driving in one session as I do all day, at least at Lime Rock.

 

Figure an average of a 70 second course time, a generous 12 runs per event, and an even more generous 20 events, that's 4.65 hours of autocross time.

But at those 20 events, you also stood at a corner station watching miata's eat cones while trying not to kill yourself out of boredom for an easy 40hrs+

 

LOL. I should factor in the time spent in the paddocks talking to Porsche and Vette drivers.

btw, that 40+hrs of corner working is what ultimately made me stop autoxing. B.O.R.I.N.G

 

BTW - I dont run SCCA so no working the course for me. I just go for rides in really cool and expensive cars instead and then kick back with a beer after my last run is done.

 

10 events / yr with ~40 sec courses and 5 runs per = 33.3 minutes / yr