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Old Feb 20, 2022 | 12:03 PM
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How far out does it seem like it would have to go out to fit flipped? Or are your springs too long and it hits the sway bar?
I'll do some measurements once I get back to working on the car. Taking a break today in order to not get totally pissed off. lol
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Old Feb 20, 2022 | 12:32 PM
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Haha. Well keep us posted when time permits.
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Old Feb 20, 2022 | 02:09 PM
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@Lumpy Sticks

Took some photos. I was mistaken, the spring doesn't hit but it's VERY CLOSE. This is at full droop so I would imagine there could be a chance of it hitting when lowered since the strut is mounted to an arm and I'm not sure how it sweeps, if at all.

So you wouldn't need much offset to get clearance, however, the real issue is that the spring hits the sway bar. This is a short 6" spring too. Perhaps the Feals mount the spring high enough to clear?



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Old Feb 20, 2022 | 02:36 PM
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Hmm... that is interesting. Looks like you can't even get the spring adjusters in? Offsetting the top would only make that worse. What would you say, the spring would have to be 2" up if you included the adjuster and lock to clear the bar? What kind of preload are you expecting on the spring? More than normal since your shock body is 1.5" shorter?

Definately going to need some pictures and measurements from Feal to see if they actually made it work.
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Old Feb 20, 2022 | 02:51 PM
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I am also wondering if an aftermarket sway would do anything. Had to go open up mine to take a look at the ends.



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Old Feb 20, 2022 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lumpy Sticks
Hmm... that is interesting. Looks like you can't even get the spring adjusters in? Offsetting the top would only make that worse. What would you say, the spring would have to be 2" up if you included the adjuster and lock to clear the bar? What kind of preload are you expecting on the spring? More than normal since your shock body is 1.5" shorter?

Definately going to need some pictures and measurements from Feal to see if they actually made it work.
2” sounds about right, I just kinda cheated to get you photos and spun the collars up and slid the spring up.

Aftermarket bar would be worse as they are thicker. Have fun installing that too.
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Old Feb 20, 2022 | 03:27 PM
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@Lumpy Sticks

Took some measurements. The sway bar is 8.5 inches from the shock tower mounting place at full droop.

Other measurements with photos, I could see the Feals clearing if they maximize space at the top.




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Old Feb 20, 2022 | 03:41 PM
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Thicker yes, by a hair. I see two things that may be in our favor. The flat spot from being adjustable and the shape looks flatter. Both will help clear the spring.

Either way, install is going to suck. This is going to be one of those things I do at work so I can borrow a lift and subframe jack.
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Old Feb 20, 2022 | 04:14 PM
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looks to me like the best solution is to stay with the divorced spring setup like oem... like KW and Ohlins and others do. added benefit is the loads stay where they were designed to be out of the factory. Is that what you were getting at when you said this setup is gonna end up costing you 5k?
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Old Feb 20, 2022 | 04:20 PM
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Is that what you were getting at when you said this setup is gonna end up costing you 5k?
No, it’s already cost me almost 5k. MCS aren’t cheap and these aren’t even remotes.
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Old Feb 20, 2022 | 08:34 PM
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Yikes. Sucks to see all these issues, especially with such a setup. Unfortunately I've heard similar stories about Vorshlag before.
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Old Feb 20, 2022 | 09:30 PM
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No, it’s already cost me almost 5k. MCS aren’t cheap and these aren’t even remotes.
my bad, I was more asking about what the solution you're considering is? divorced spring or something else?
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Old Feb 21, 2022 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab

you can probably put a nut or a washer between the joint and sway bar. I did that to my WL endlinks
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Old Feb 21, 2022 | 12:51 PM
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How's the oiling situation with the Supra? Any oiling issues with high grip tires and long sweeping turns?
This got lost in the noise

Does the Supra oiling system do okay on stickier tires? Or is it still going to need some oiling changes to stay happy in the long term?
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Old Feb 21, 2022 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Construct
This got lost in the noise

Does the Supra oiling system do okay on stickier tires? Or is it still going to need some oiling changes to stay happy in the long term?
I haven't heard of issues but that doesn't mean there aren't any. It's a very new platform. Came out in 2019 and people where not doing track events for at least 1.5 years because of the pandemic. So only about 1.5 years of track use so far.

I can ask Jackie Ding, he has the most track time and is the most modified and also just moved to Hoosiers.
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