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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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So... Still thinking about the Boxster?

most definitely. Went to the Porsche dealer yesterday in fact to check them out. They are so very sweet in the dark grey color and that "S" engine purrs like a dream. My only issue was that my legs are so long that I have a weird angle to the gas pedal and it's not comfy at all. I sat in the MR2 Spyder and my legs were fine but my knees "barely" grazed the dash which isn't really a problem for me. I'll have to do some more looking on the Boxster forums to see if there's any seat mods for tall guys.....otherwise I'll be bent on that Spyder with a Veilside bodykit
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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In either car, I wouldn't really want my knees to be that close to the dash. In the event of an accident, your knees would take a helluva impact, and broken femurs and kneecaps aren't fun. Actually, I think in the Scion tC (or some other car) they actually have an airbag positioned around the knee area for the driver, because the impact forces do tend to be high.

For either the Boxster or MR2, there should be aftermarket seat rails available which should place the seat a bit lower and further back.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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I cross-shopped the Evo and Boxster S when I was looking at cars. The Boxster S will definitely command a higher price and require more maintenance (oil changes are expensive in that thing). I don't buy the whole "get a 911 argument". At the track, Boxster S's are by far the most dominant stock porsches compared to the Carreras. However it sounds like budget may be an issue for you so I would discourage you from getting a Porsche. Maintenance costs are sky high and mod costs are ridiculous. I picked the Evo over the Boxster S because it was cheaper and had 4 seats and because my wife hated convertibles. However, if non of those things matter to you, I would say that a Boxster would be great but keep in mind that those cars are definitely NOT drag racing machines. You will get killed by any number of other cars.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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Yes, Porsche mechanics can be something else. My friend has a 928 and largely avoids them unless he needs a special tool, because truthfully, engine access in a 928 is a non-issue.

For the record, the best Porsche mechanics don't speak english. They'll usually speak Portuguese. As for changing the oil... might be a pain, but DIY. I'm not paying $80 for changing the oil on my MR. Dealership already said they'll sell me oil by the case at barely above cost, the rest at the usual 20% off, and just ask that I keep my sales receipts, document things thoroughly, and just follow the manual.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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if ur going to do the roadster thing, take the s2000, my frends have an 04 s2k, and 01 s2k and a 02 mr2 spyder, i have the ///m3, if u wanna spend more and get a "classy sports car" get the bimmer, or an s4 its better than the porsche performance wise, if u want a roadster, s2000, its more performance than the mrS, even thought the mrS handles just like a go-kart it weighs 1 ton only...but the s2k has 100 more hp
the M car is the fastest though, it beat the m5 around the track and the cts-v
ill tell ya, powersliding the ///M around corners is very fun, 333hp@ 8000RPM(11.1:1 compression) just like the s2k, but the s2k revs up to 9000
btw if u get the MR. S or the s2k get white with red interior(i hate white too) but those are very special color combos if u can even find them
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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I'm 6'7" so my knees graze the dashboard in just about anything. As for the S2K, they only have 34" of headroom so it's not a possibility.......you've got to be 5'5" to drive one of those things.....they have the least headroom of any production car I've looked up specs on.....by 3" at least.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 09:54 PM
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It's probably a bit extreme, but maybe you could get your shins removed. You'd be a great height for about any car then!

As for the S... 5'5"? No. I'm 5'10" and I fit just fine. I think you need aftermarket seat rails though if you're 6'2" or thereabouts. I think 6'4" is the absolute limit for the S2000.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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I'm 6'7" so my knees graze the dashboard in just about anything. As for the S2K, they only have 34" of headroom so it's not a possibility.......you've got to be 5'5" to drive one of those things.....they have the least headroom of any production car I've looked up specs on.....by 3" at least.
The stock seats in most production cars are too high for two reasons. First of all if you're tall you won't fit properly, secondly and most importantly for even somewhat shorter people, you feel like you're too high and sitting on the car instead of in the car so you don't get as much feel. Usually an aftermarket seat and special brackets can drop you lower in the car. I met a really tall guy in a 911 that had his seat so low in the car that you had to be six feet tall to see over the dash.

Personally I think most cars have too much head room. You see so many cars out there with high roofs and it gives them more frontal area for worse aerodynamics, not to mention that they are ugly as heck. If you just lower the seat, you get your headroom without a hideous and needlessly high roof. Too bad everyone seems to want to sit tall and see over traffic. ::rollseyes::
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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I agree with alot of people saying that a boxster is a poor mans Porsche. Maybe thats because I used to own a F355 Spider and a 993. I live in Los Angeles near Beverly Hills and those cars are everywhere, I see them more than Civics, no BS. I guess for me I just look at the price of the car and you know what people may think of you. Everyone knows those Boxsters are cheap now and most people can afford them nowadays so its no big deal to have one of those unless its a 996. But why get a 996 when the new one is due very soon...The funny thing is that I see people in Boxsters and they look like they are driving a Mucielago Might as well go and buy a Lotus Elan or a Ferrari 328...ok im just playing. haha j/k Good luck with your new ride whatever it is But the bottom line is if you like it then buy it, its your decision and as long as your happy thats all it counts. Try to get one with warranty if still available because that car will cost you alot of $$$ to fix if it does break down. This is just my opinion on how I look at cars.....
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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I'd say think again. I see that you ride, or did at least, based on your sig attempting to hawk your SVS.

I will never buy a roadster or convertible-- for that top-down feeling I use a motorcycle. also, at 6'7", a tall rallycar like the Evo will be a godsend. you will find similar headroom in the Impreza and a huge deficiency in anything else.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 11:18 PM
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I agree with alot of people saying that a boxster is a poor mans Porsche. Maybe thats because I used to own a F355 Spider and a 993. I live in Los Angeles near Beverly Hills and those cars are everywhere, I see them more than Civics, no BS. I guess for me I just look at the price of the car and you know what people may think of you. Everyone knows those Boxsters are cheap now and most people can afford them nowadays so its no big deal to have one of those unless its a 996. But why get a 996 when the new one is due very soon...The funny thing is that I see people in Boxsters and they look like they are driving a Mucielago Might as well go and buy a Lotus Elan or a Ferrari 328...ok im just playing. haha j/k Good luck with your new ride whatever it is But the bottom line is if you like it then buy it, its your decision and as long as your happy thats all it counts. Try to get one with warranty if still available because that car will cost you alot of $$$ to fix if it does break down. This is just my opinion on how I look at cars.....
That is a perfectly valid way to look at cars, however I'm really glad I don't see it that way. A car is a tool, a means toward an end. If you want status in a town full of Modenas, don't buy a boxster. If you want a quality car with midengine fun at a lower entry price, get a boxster. Personally I'm about lap times in cars that are still somewhat streetable, so I don't see the point of supercars if their performance isn't up to par. I don't even care too much about 360s unless they are challenge stradales or 911s unless they are GT3s. I know someone who has a 1972 Porsche 911 with some extensive mods, though his total cost was only maybe 40k (including the price of the car). His lap times in a recent competition, www.opentrackchallenge.com, bested modified evos, vipers, corvettes, etc. Not only that, he did it without support. (one evo blew a motor and had enough support to get the motor replaced on the same day). Although, I may still get an evo for track work, I think I'm starting to doubt it as an end all platform for track dominance. I mean if even the Sparco Evo does a 1:57 at buttonwillow (with race tires), and the man I know with the 72 911 does 2:01 with street tires and much less hp, how can you compare them. The evo has too little engine displacement, too much weight, and too many driven wheels to be the best road course car in dry weather (too little tire too). Evos are wonderful for the low cost and street ability. They are also wonderful for lap times and easy modification, up to a point. I would choose an evo for track fun as well as street driving, but I'd keep it relatively stock since I know I could go further in my 930. I'd sell my 930 to get out of the never-ending modification obsession and would regret the evo if I tried to get it that far in modification. Evos are not all conquering in the highest level of street cars if their weight requires so much power from a 2 liter that's not indestructible. In some cases, the Porsche can be a cheaper choice, although the situation is rare and some may point out that I'm talking about 30 year old cars. Find out what you want to do with your car, what style of car that you want to do it in, and have fun. If you do enough research, you can do anything with anything. Well, almost anything...
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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944 turbo S is an awesome car. When did they make those? 88-89? I would take one of those any day over an 88-89 911... it would kill a 911 on any twisty road. The S2 I had was a real good car also... the cab was a $50K car.. too overpriced by the time the stopped making them.. but still a real good car, great handling car, decent torque and HP for the time.. 944's in general are some of the best handling cars porsche ever made. Porsche supposedly designed the 968 to REPLACE the 911.... it was in many ways a better car than the 911 of the same period. (pre-993 model). HAve you seen the poster showing the evolution of the 911 with the final one being the 968? but the purists (elitists) would have no part of it. And it was too expensive for that economy, they DID need a higher volume (lower priced) car to make money to keep the 911 and the companay afloat. Hence the boxter.
The Turbo S was only produced in 88, though the 89 Turbo was essentially the same; the 944 Turbo was made from 86-89. The Turbo S packed 250 HP in a 2750 lb car - the 911 in 1988 had 214 HP in a similarly weight package. The 89 911 matched the 250 HP number while the 944 was "nerfed" to protect the 911 sales/elitists.
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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OK fine. Then the Boxster is to Porsche what the Civic is to honda, or what the corolla is to toyota. But once again, this has no bearing on the issue at hand. We weren't talking about the car's value in terms of the company's financial situation
You brought up the 318ti and C230. They exist(ed) for completely different reasons than the Boxster does. I still don't know what point you're trying to make, other than the 911 > Boxster.
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 08:40 AM
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It's probably a bit extreme, but maybe you could get your shins removed. You'd be a great height for about any car then!

As for the S... 5'5"? No. I'm 5'10" and I fit just fine. I think you need aftermarket seat rails though if you're 6'2" or thereabouts. I think 6'4" is the absolute limit for the S2000.
I'm 6'2" and have no problems fitting in the S2. I know a few owners who are slightly taller. Of course, a lot depends on how you're built (leg/torso length) and how tolerant you are to less-than-ideal seating positions. That said, there's an easy solution - just keep the top down all the time.

If he was skinny, the Mugen seat for the S2 would allow for someone 6'6" to sit comfortably in the car. Getting out might be hard though.
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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I'm 6'2" and have no problems fitting in the S2. I know a few owners who are slightly taller. Of course, a lot depends on how you're built (leg/torso length) and how tolerant you are to less-than-ideal seating positions. That said, there's an easy solution - just keep the top down all the time.

If he was skinny, the Mugen seat for the S2 would allow for someone 6'6" to sit comfortably in the car. Getting out might be hard though.

wow....I don't see how they do it. The S2K has 3" less headroom than the smallest car I've ever sat in......they must be slouching in the seat or something
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