SST Questions
who are you calling lil kid **** wad, evolution were meant to race, automatic transmisions are not durable and also cause the car to overheat wen used to long do some research
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as posted by the other guy from Japan ..
This is a BONESTOCK SST .. 76whp gain .. ridiculous ..
as posted by the other guy from Japan ..
This is a BONESTOCK SST .. 76whp gain .. ridiculous ..
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Do the flash guys you're dealing with have any idea whether the error codes are cleared with a reset or stored somewhere more permanently?
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Thanks, NZEvox, that is awesome news. Personally, since I'd be happy with the power levels you've achieved, I'm feeling like my interest in the SST has really been vindicated.
Do the flash guys you're dealing with have any idea whether the error codes are cleared with a reset or stored somewhere more permanently?
Do the flash guys you're dealing with have any idea whether the error codes are cleared with a reset or stored somewhere more permanently?
But as long as you keep to their flash and no more modes to increase power you will be fine.
I have given mine a few hard drives and no error codes. The re-flash should be available from ECUTek if not let me know.
SST may overheat in traffic jams or slow downhill drives
Twin clutch is disconnected in D when you either step on the brakes or the accelerator at low speed
Twin clutch is SEMI SLIPPED when you're not stepping on brakes (to simulate automatic creep) or accelerator
Prolonged semi slipped TCSST in traffic jams will cause overheat of the gearbox, requiring you to stop one side and shutdown the engine ..
Mitsubishi suggests to go neutral in such circumstances or step on either accelerator or brakes and don't allow creep. They will not be fixing this issue..
This is extracted from the Japanese forums ..
Sticky this if you like MODs .. coz I'm sure alot of guys will be crying foul when you get the MRs on the roads ..
Twin clutch is disconnected in D when you either step on the brakes or the accelerator at low speed
Twin clutch is SEMI SLIPPED when you're not stepping on brakes (to simulate automatic creep) or accelerator
Prolonged semi slipped TCSST in traffic jams will cause overheat of the gearbox, requiring you to stop one side and shutdown the engine ..
Mitsubishi suggests to go neutral in such circumstances or step on either accelerator or brakes and don't allow creep. They will not be fixing this issue..
This is extracted from the Japanese forums ..
Sticky this if you like MODs .. coz I'm sure alot of guys will be crying foul when you get the MRs on the roads ..
Who the heck will ever drive the xMR(or any car for that matter) for more than a mere moment without their foot on either the gas or the break(in this semi-slipping state).
I would call this coasting, and if I plan to coast for some strange reason I will be putting it in neutral.
If you drive a car in an odd fashion, which this semi-slipping thing would be then you should expect odd results such as overheating.
Some people drive automatics with both feet (one gas, one break). So I guess someone might be driving like this as well.
Not an issue for me.
I would call this coasting, and if I plan to coast for some strange reason I will be putting it in neutral.
If you drive a car in an odd fashion, which this semi-slipping thing would be then you should expect odd results such as overheating.
Some people drive automatics with both feet (one gas, one break). So I guess someone might be driving like this as well.
Not an issue for me.
First, it's not an automatic transmision, it's an 'automatic manual' huge difference.
Second, even if it was I'd wager there have been and are still plenty of Evo owners who have significantly shortened the life of of their manual clutch tranny through misuse so the argument of durability is completly apples and oranges as far as I'm concerned.
Third, my understanding is that the whole point behind the wait for the US delivery of the MR was to allieviate if not eradicate the 'overheat' condition and perhaps one or two other issues, so it 'may' no longer even occur.
Forth, even if it does occur, which it may who knows until it is in owners hands here, I would surmise this is simply because, for the time being the tranmssion is 'not servicable' period. That means something goes wrong it gets completely replaced at a part cost of 8k+ then add labor and it's close to 10k. Mitsu, I would assume would rather be able to service them first and 'perhaps' this was their attempt at staving that off. Who can (or rather will) say?
All moving parts wear, excessive wear can increase heat, the heat can increase the wear and so forth. Not a good solution to saddle the driver with overheat conditions requiring a pullover and cooldown for certain regardless of Mitsu's motives so personally I absolutely DO NOT expect to see MRs dropping off the road with overheat conditions except in rare conditions, if at all. That would be brand suicide IMHO, hence why I bet this is one of the (if not the) main reasons that the MR's were held up in the first place for US delievry. No one would accept that level of inconveinience.
Regardless, once again this is an automatic manual, not an automatic. It slips the cluth(es) some as you said of that I'm certain so there's going to be some wear there when that happens, I think Mitsu just changed their minds with their plans to initially sacrifice some customer satisfaction in order to save $$$ on the service end. More likely they are getting closer to making the transmission a servicable part through training etc etc.
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Second, even if it was I'd wager there have been and are still plenty of Evo owners who have significantly shortened the life of of their manual clutch tranny through misuse so the argument of durability is completly apples and oranges as far as I'm concerned.
Third, my understanding is that the whole point behind the wait for the US delivery of the MR was to allieviate if not eradicate the 'overheat' condition and perhaps one or two other issues, so it 'may' no longer even occur.
Forth, even if it does occur, which it may who knows until it is in owners hands here, I would surmise this is simply because, for the time being the tranmssion is 'not servicable' period. That means something goes wrong it gets completely replaced at a part cost of 8k+ then add labor and it's close to 10k. Mitsu, I would assume would rather be able to service them first and 'perhaps' this was their attempt at staving that off. Who can (or rather will) say?
All moving parts wear, excessive wear can increase heat, the heat can increase the wear and so forth. Not a good solution to saddle the driver with overheat conditions requiring a pullover and cooldown for certain regardless of Mitsu's motives so personally I absolutely DO NOT expect to see MRs dropping off the road with overheat conditions except in rare conditions, if at all. That would be brand suicide IMHO, hence why I bet this is one of the (if not the) main reasons that the MR's were held up in the first place for US delievry. No one would accept that level of inconveinience.
Regardless, once again this is an automatic manual, not an automatic. It slips the cluth(es) some as you said of that I'm certain so there's going to be some wear there when that happens, I think Mitsu just changed their minds with their plans to initially sacrifice some customer satisfaction in order to save $$$ on the service end. More likely they are getting closer to making the transmission a servicable part through training etc etc.
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I OWN a SST and I have been stuck at a crawl in Auckland traffic for close to 1 hour and there was no issue. I love the SST it is fantastic. I started this thread to answer genuine questions not have people complain about a gearbox that they have never driven. View this edmonds video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qreQwTeaVWY and listen to what they have to say.
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Quite correct. Mitsu delayed the release of Xs equipped with the TC-SST to resolve the overheating problem, and from what I've heard, they were 100% successful.
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First, it's not an automatic transmision, it's an 'automatic manual' huge difference.
Second, even if it was I'd wager there have been and are still plenty of Evo owners who have significantly shortened the life of of their manual clutch tranny through misuse so the argument of durability is completly apples and oranges as far as I'm concerned.
Third, my understanding is that the whole point behind the wait for the US delivery of the MR was to allieviate if not eradicate the 'overheat' condition and perhaps one or two other issues, so it 'may' no longer even occur.
Forth, even if it does occur, which it may who knows until it is in owners hands here, I would surmise this is simply because, for the time being the tranmssion is 'not servicable' period. That means something goes wrong it gets completely replaced at a part cost of 8k+ then add labor and it's close to 10k. Mitsu, I would assume would rather be able to service them first and 'perhaps' this was their attempt at staving that off. Who can (or rather will) say?
All moving parts wear, excessive wear can increase heat, the heat can increase the wear and so forth. Not a good solution to saddle the driver with overheat conditions requiring a pullover and cooldown for certain regardless of Mitsu's motives so personally I absolutely DO NOT expect to see MRs dropping off the road with overheat conditions except in rare conditions, if at all. That would be brand suicide IMHO, hence why I bet this is one of the (if not the) main reasons that the MR's were held up in the first place for US delievry. No one would accept that level of inconveinience.
Regardless, once again this is an automatic manual, not an automatic. It slips the cluth(es) some as you said of that I'm certain so there's going to be some wear there when that happens, I think Mitsu just changed their minds with their plans to initially sacrifice some customer satisfaction in order to save $$$ on the service end. More likely they are getting closer to making the transmission a servicable part through training etc etc.
-uhprentis-
Second, even if it was I'd wager there have been and are still plenty of Evo owners who have significantly shortened the life of of their manual clutch tranny through misuse so the argument of durability is completly apples and oranges as far as I'm concerned.
Third, my understanding is that the whole point behind the wait for the US delivery of the MR was to allieviate if not eradicate the 'overheat' condition and perhaps one or two other issues, so it 'may' no longer even occur.
Forth, even if it does occur, which it may who knows until it is in owners hands here, I would surmise this is simply because, for the time being the tranmssion is 'not servicable' period. That means something goes wrong it gets completely replaced at a part cost of 8k+ then add labor and it's close to 10k. Mitsu, I would assume would rather be able to service them first and 'perhaps' this was their attempt at staving that off. Who can (or rather will) say?
All moving parts wear, excessive wear can increase heat, the heat can increase the wear and so forth. Not a good solution to saddle the driver with overheat conditions requiring a pullover and cooldown for certain regardless of Mitsu's motives so personally I absolutely DO NOT expect to see MRs dropping off the road with overheat conditions except in rare conditions, if at all. That would be brand suicide IMHO, hence why I bet this is one of the (if not the) main reasons that the MR's were held up in the first place for US delievry. No one would accept that level of inconveinience.
Regardless, once again this is an automatic manual, not an automatic. It slips the cluth(es) some as you said of that I'm certain so there's going to be some wear there when that happens, I think Mitsu just changed their minds with their plans to initially sacrifice some customer satisfaction in order to save $$$ on the service end. More likely they are getting closer to making the transmission a servicable part through training etc etc.
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I OWN a SST and I have been stuck at a crawl in Auckland traffic for close to 1 hour and there was no issue. I love the SST it is fantastic. I started this thread to answer genuine questions not have people complain about a gearbox that they have never driven. View this edmonds video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qreQwTeaVWY and listen to what they have to say.
so what happens if you "coast" towards the light and start to brake, then let off the brake? can you tell if the clutch disengages when you hit the brakes and then reengages when you "coast" again?
i can see how all this action may cause overheating, it's just a question of how frequent this may occur...