I still have not seen a DMS setup set faster lap times than a Moton setup.

See how easy that was?

 

Well there you have it.

Regards,
Max Cudich

 

right. well, that settles it. i'm gonna need some motons, too.

mueller? you out there?

oh- and someone might as well send me some ohlins.

works? hello? that'd be group N tarmac, please.



time's a-wastin', gentlemen...

 

Its interesting to note that pics show what appears to be a twin tube design instead of a monotube. Any specific reason this was done?

 

Which pictures are you referring to?

Regards,
Max Cudich

 

I'll be at Buttonwillow this weekend if anyone wants to check the JRZs out.

Regards,
Max Cudich

 

It's post SEMA, is approximate pricing available?

 

I posted a money back offer as well as a search for a test car for a 40mm.

I am coming out to the 25hr of thunderhill, can arrange to setup a car with these 40mm in the following days after the race.

I will use the 40mm in this test to prove my points, not even the 50mm. I will gladly go against any other shock that comes to this test. Is there free track time at thunderhill or infineon following the 25hr race ??

I can also arrange to have a 50mm setup present as well to demonstrate the differences.

I ask to have to identical cars with two drivers that are willing to let the other drive his car. We will take the average of both drivers on both cars to determine the fastest lap time instead of people *****ing about it. I have had DMS cars going against MOTON, JRZ, PENSKE, and OHLINS all summer long across North America and have not had a similarily setup car run a faster lap time as of yet.

Prime example, Buschur Racings evo just beat a 500hp STI with 14,000$ OHLINS on them in the Car and Driver super 4 shootout in Ann Arbor, MI this summer. This car was setup by RobiSpec.

mark

 

Max, I'm suprised no one actually answered your original questions. I'll try to do my best.

As far as basic options that would be best for this demograhpic.

Double adjustable, remote resevoir shocks with fixed spring perches would be a big hit here. Not only for just people here who participate in "stock" class racing through SCCA. But also, the fact that no real viable options exist.

In addition, the "packaged" kits with camber plates, pillow ball mounts, etc should be a big hit.

 

Mark,

There is nothing wrong with having pride in your products. But, we both know the above is hardly what I would call a fair comparison. In addition, you probably would've been better with the approach that Max took towards this "pissing" contest.

And lastly, if you really want to prove the worth of the DMS setup. Bring out atleast one example to Hartland Park next year for Nationals.

 

How come it is not a far comparrison ? We had a cheaper set up of shocks, less horsepower, and finished ahead in the test ?

I will stop pissing now, sorry to make heads shake in dispair

I plan to help out as many grassroutes programs as I can next year with heavy discounts to encourage our product line. Anyways, I will check back here in a coupld of days to see were we are for a "heads up test session"

Regards,
Mark

 

Hey guys,

I have no desire to try and prove these shocks against any competition, it's simply not my style. I simply researched as all of you do what is currently the prime example of motorsport technology, and I believe that JRZ, along with Moton, Penske, Ohlins, even DMS are simply that. I selected JRZ to run in my car because they are run by many reputable multi-million dollar race teams running in a wide variety of series, and are winning, just like I selected hypercoil for my springs, and Ground Control for my camber plates. Like I said in the begining I just want to offer what I feel to be a great racing product to the Evo community, and like I also said, I believe all of you are very capable people at making decisions, hell, you are all driving Evo's right!? So I leave it to you to make your own decision, and in the mean time I will be posting how I am doing with this coilovers, and as stated before, you can come down and check them out yourself if pictures and words aren't good enough.

Regards,
Max Cudich

 

Does JRZ have a model for the EVO that has low speed adjustable bump?

 

also i heard that the DMS double ended progressive springs somehow negate the need for low speed bump adjustabililty on their line of shocks. is this true, and how does this work?

 

Yep, I am here.

As far as EVOs running in sanctioned wheel to wheel motorsport here in the USA,
we have set SCCA lap records at Thunderhill (1:57.5 with cyclone) Infineon (1:45.2) and Laguna Seca (1:37.1) all on the Motons with a rookie driver who had never raced on any of these tracks before this season. Our improvements over our first events at Laguna and Thunderhill are even more amazing, as we went from running a best lap of the weekend last April at Laguna of 1:43.3 to running consistent 1:37s. At Thunderhill for Kent's first event there, our best time was 2:04.9 with cyclone, now we can run in the 1:57s consistently.

As far as EVO lap times at these race tracks, Moton is the way to go if you want to spend time driving on the fastest set-up, and focusing the rest of your time on motor tuning and driving technique. We have Club Sports in stock, and our next set of Motorsport dampers is about 10 days away.

Comparing remote reservoir dampers to non-remote reservoir style is not a fair comparison, as all serious road racing cars globally have remote reservoir shocks, due to their superior ability to dissapate heat.