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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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Wouldn't you have to do a complete SSL (or non) conversion?

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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
... You'll have let us know how much a conversion like that costs ....
I think the M3 was about $1,500 to do.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
Switching the roof would be legal due to the inheritance of stock rules but I have to ask if it makes sense financially to do this vs just selling the car and buying one that comes without sunroof ... You'll have let us know how much a conversion like that costs ....
Agreed. I'd just buy a non-sunroof car, swap over your mods, and then sell your car.

On a completely side note, I'll make you a good deal on my '06 SE
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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You picking up an X?
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by donour
Wouldn't you have to do a complete SSL (or non) conversion?

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The '03's didn't offer SSL, the only two options were the sunroof and the wing size.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 06:59 AM
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Per the Stock section:

Option package conversions may be performed between specific
vehicles of a particular make and model, but only between
configurations from within a particular model year. Such
conversions must be totally complete and the resultant car must
meet all requirements of this Section. Alternate parts listed in a
factory parts manual are not authorized unless their use is
specifically referenced in the factory service manual or in a service
bulletin for the specific model.
Going back to the bump steer kit.......I'm still running mine but I am planning on swapping it out this off season or at least adjusting it to induce more bumpsteer, I haven't decided yet.

I also wanted to ask this question, I'm currently running an Ultimate Racing HFC. With the new rules, this HFC is now illegal since it's not EPA certified. Are there any other HFC's out there besides Random Technologies that is certified?
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by russjnco
I also wanted to ask this question, I'm currently running an Ultimate Racing HFC. With the new rules, this HFC is now illegal since it's not EPA certified. Are there any other HFC's out there besides Random Technologies that is certified?
Hey Russ,

I'll have to check that Fastrack update, but I thought I read the EPA certification was only for STS/STS2?

If so, you need to dump that brick of a cat you have. UR's HF cat is a Magnaflow ceramic version. There are other options out there, similar to Random's, that have much more flow, lighter wt., more durability and smaller in size.

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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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I have rick’s ramdom cat (100cell) for sale if anyone is interested, this is a bolt on version. No welding needed, brand new. was going to put in the car next season but decide to run another class. 250 shipped
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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I'm re-reading tech bulletins as well and I'm not finding it. I had read an Andy Hollis post that mentioned EPA certification specifically but I can't find anything specific in regards to HFC's within recent tech bulletins.

This is all I have found:

Street Touring: The Tech Bulletin published in the August 2007 Fastrack in regards to the “emissions system” was intended
to refer to the “emissions monitoring system” in all cases. Since the inception of the ST category, the goal has been to reflect
common, street-legal modifications, as stated in the opening paragraph of section 14. An integral part of street legality is emissions
legality. The SEB interprets the phrases “meet emissions standards” and “emissions legal” as the ability to meet the
tailpipe emissions standards of an Inspection and Maintenance (I/M) test. I/M testing is commonly required by the EPA in socalled
“non-attainment zones” and is a subset of the original vehicle emissions certification (Federal Test Procedure).
You're right though, I do need to ditch that P.O.S., last month one of the rivets on the heat shield broke so the whole thing was vibrating loudly under certain rpms. I crawled under the car and ripped it off, problem solved

Edit:

You're right Rick, that is for STS/ST2 only:

“E. Catalytic converters may be replaced by aftermarket units. Replacements must: 1) be certified for use in that vehicle application
by the manufacturer or reconditioner, 2) bear correct EPA-mandated labeling, 3) be of the OE quantity and type (i.e. oxidation,
three-way, etc.) and 4) be used in the same location(s) as the OE converter(s). This does allow for high performance replacements,
provided they meet all restrictions herein.”

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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Jason-

You picking up an X?
No, I'm actually going to the dark side. Just picked up a gutted '95 M3 and I'm going to build a FP car. I also am going to start doing some track days/time attack events. I just don't want to take the Evo on the track as it's too nice. In the interum, I'm going to co-drive Paul's STi.

I've pulled all the suspension off the Evo already. I had forgotten how nice it drives around with the stock stuff

I still have all the go-fast stuff installed but I that's coming off as well (for sale soon). At that point we'll either just keep the car as a street car or will just sell it off as it's a third car (well forth now acutally).
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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For those of you interested in such things, the 2008 PAX numbers are out. It's about as I expected, STU jumped to .830, a smaller increase than any of the other ST classes.

Here's the official link: http://scca-chicago.com/solo/indexes/rtp2008.html
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by russjnco
For those of you interested in such things, the 2008 PAX numbers are out. It's about as I expected, STU jumped to .830, a smaller increase than any of the other ST classes.

Here's the official link: http://scca-chicago.com/solo/indexes/rtp2008.html
I read all ST went up because how fast J. Frank was in STS. STS also was adjusted due to the new tires available this year. Oh well, we still have 1.5 months to place high in PAX.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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As far as the sunroof conversion goes I'll update this thread with pictures if and/or when I do the swap. I did do a parts list for the swap and its about $1k. When I purchased the car (the first day they were available in the US) there were no non-sunroof cars around otherwise I would have gotten one. After watching a few back to back runs of similar cars but, one with a sunroof and one without I was convinced to ditch mine, now I just have to convince the wife!!!!

A few people have questioned why I just not buy a new car, which really makes no sense. My car will be paid off in less than 2 years also the money to do the conversion is relatively inexpensive since I can do the work myself. Also, I'm not convinced the IX is better than the VIII. I just don't think the ACD and MIVEC make a significant difference to the point where I would ditch my VIII for a IX. I've been on Corey's tail all year here in Philly in his IX SE and it mainly comes down to our skill levels. I am slowly creeping up on him though.

Anyway, like I said I'll keep the thread updated with a how-to with pictures for those of you considering this as well.

I wish I could go with the aluminum roof though, however, it wasn't available in 2003 (as far as I know) plus I'm not sure the MR or RS would be considered an option package since you couldn't build one out of a standard VIII.

As far as the bumpsteer kit, thats still up in the air as to its effectiveness.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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I bought a front two point strut bar from Gruppe-S in an effort of saving some weight. It only weighs 2.5 lbs. I was going to test it to see if there any difference to the stock 3 point strut bar.

However, the cross bar mounting is not high enough to clear the brake reservoir. Once the bar is installed, it pushes the brake master cylinder down a little and makes it hard to open the brake master cylinder reservoir cap.

I went back to the stock bar. Just thought I like you guys to know about what doesn't fit. Thanks.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dannykao
I bought a front two point strut bar from Gruppe-S in an effort of saving some weight. It only weighs 2.5 lbs. I was going to test it to see if there any difference to the stock 3 point strut bar.

However, the cross bar mounting is not high enough to clear the brake reservoir. Once the bar is installed, it pushes the brake master cylinder down a little and makes it hard to open the brake master cylinder reservoir cap.

I went back to the stock bar. Just thought I like you guys to know about what doesn't fit. Thanks.
DMac thinks DKao just likes to spend money. The 3 point bar is better anyway.
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