Devo330 has used Baer 2-piece rotors for a about 1.5 years on his daily driver that is tracked every couple of months without problem.

 

Thanks guys. I ordered mine online this morning and will run it though the paces and report back.

 

Mike is a good gauge for you, although going from the M3 to the Evo may take him some time to adjust to. Seat time is more valuable than any part you can buy and I've seen this first hand. Last year I was running with Ian McFetridge, who has been at this game of Solo for years and years. He was racing basically a stock VIII and was nipping at my heels all year long and my car nearly STU modded out, although I was running JICs with WAY too soft springs. Anyway, watching what he was able to do with the car using his very high level of skill was amazing, hence why everyone always says seat time is invaluable.

Anyway, I am still not sold on switching to 2-piece rotors. I just can't seem them being a significant improvement to the point that they would be justified. You'll have to chime in after a few events with them.

I assume you won't have them for Sunday's event?

 

I am still breaking-in my new clutch so I will be co-driving Steve Yang's Evo on Sunday. I couldn't convince Steve to have my Wing installed on his car just for the event so I might have to show you the wing during one of the winter events. It's not likely I will get the rotors before the event.

Thanks Adam, see you guys on Sunday.

 

Yeah, I remembered after I posted...Momentary lapse of reason...

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So, what is the consesus on the bump steer kits? Are they a benefit or more of a hinderance? I've had mine for awhile but, never installed them as people have been complaining of induced understeer with them then without them.

 

I also bought the rear bump steer kits and have not installed them. I think Davemac (or someone else) had them installed and removed them later. I can't imagine if the bump steer kit will make a big difference in autox.

I guess I should put them up for sale.

 

I still have mine and they are not installed. I think that most people must be installing them upside down or something. I've been thinking about the effect on the lateral control arm if you installed it with the offset to the top vs to the bottom. I'm going to ask the folks at Whiteline to clarify the benefit to A/X (if any).

 

well, if the car is going into a bump steer state, it may add additional rotation to the car. We used to set the formula mazdas up on purpose to bump in the rear, so they would rotate the car (in a kind of a wild manner)...

cb

 

I'm having really no problem getting the car to rotate so if the bump steer kit would in effect allow the rear to rotate a little more than that would be a problem since I'm already chasing it at some events. Unless it works in the opposite effect where in it eliminates the bump steer, not allowing the rear to rotate (hence why some guys have complained of understeer with them installed).

 

On another note, I've been itching to remove the sunroof and roof and install a non-sunroof VIII roof (not the aluminum RS or MR version).

I have been reading through the rule book and it appears as though it may be legal

If you read the beginning of the STU rules (section 14) it notes that the cars must adhere to Stock rules (section 13). Under Section 13 it notes that:

"Option package conversions may be performed between specific vehicles of a particular make and model, but only between configurations from within a particular model year."

That being said I believe that would indicate that I could switch from a sunroof roof to a non-sunroof roof from model 2003 so long as I switch the entire assembly (meaning remove the entire sunroof assembly). I would have just bought a non-sunroof car to begin with but, I was too impatient Since it was an option package I should be able to go to a non-sunroof roof since some one wanting a sunroof could in essence install the sunroof glass and sunroof roof. I can understand the arguement about the aluminum roof being illegal on my car since it wasn't an option fora non-RS or MR VIII.

I think I am interpreting that correcty but, wanted to get some thoughts on it before I put the car under the knife.

 

I think you can change the roof under that rule. You just need to make sure that all of the reinforcements are placed properly for a non-sunroof car and remove all the switches. You'd have to replace the roof liner too I'd imagine.

 

Yeah I agree. To be legal I'd have to go the whole nine yards, meaning remove anything and everything to do with the sunroof, which is a good thing!!!

If I read that Section correctly the aluminum roof would not be legal since it was not an option, although the RS and MR both had the aluminum roof and are from the same model year and the RS and MR versions were both option packages so to speak, although I guess techinically they are different models.

 

Perfectly legal . The top M3 at nats had the same thing done.

I wondered if you could option your car up to an MR under stock rules, minus the comfort interior parts, to get the Al roof. A RS would be hard with all the door work, ABS delete, and sound coating. Then I remembered that the MR was not offered in '03, so it wouldn't be legal.

 

Switching the roof would be legal due to the inheritance of stock rules but I have to ask if it makes sense financially to do this vs just selling the car and buying one that comes without sunroof ... You'll have let us know how much a conversion like that costs ....