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View Poll Results: 2009 Driver's Championship winner?
Lewis Hamilton
6.06%
Kimi Raikkonen
6.06%
Felipe Massa
10.61%
Jenson Button
57.58%
Rubens Barrichello
1.52%
Jarno Trulli
4.55%
Timo Glock
0
0%
Nick Heidfeld
0
0%
Robert Kubica
1.52%
Fernando Alonso
3.03%
Sebastien Vettel
7.58%
Someone else
1.52%
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Old May 11, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Billy@EnglishRacing
They both started of on a 2 stop strategy, and due to fear that they were going to be stacked in the pits on the second stop, RB only received 3-4 seconds of fuel. With the lighter weight then JB at that point JB was urging him to go faster..... at least that is how i remember the race.
Both started on a 3 stopper... Button was changed to the two stop strategy.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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Massa should have let Vettel by sooner, he could have maintained a pace fast enough to hold Alonso at bay.

Massa seemed pretty pissed about having to slow down, i think he was just being a bit over rebellious
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Old May 11, 2009 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by grillpt
Both started on a 3 stopper... Button was changed to the two stop strategy.
I am surprised that they started both cars as heavy as they did if they were planning on a 3 stopper.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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If you recall, during that conf. he also claimed that he had bad tires in that third stint and then backpedaled and said something was wrong with the car. I thought that was pretty weak.
True.

The thing is, I don't really buy into the theory that Brawn made Barrichello get 2nd. They got 18 points either way, and IMO it would be beneficial to have RB get the 10 once or twice to make sure he's ahead of Vettel.

Originally Posted by Billy@EnglishRacing
Massa seemed pretty pissed about having to slow down, i think he was just being a bit over rebellious
Possible.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
Massa should have let Vettel by sooner, he could have maintained a pace fast enough to hold Alonso at bay.
I completely agree, but come'n... these guys are the best drivers in the world and extremely competitive. Try telling them to "slow down and let him pass."
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Old May 11, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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True!


Regardless, I can't imagine anyone at that level calculating the fuel level wrong. It's just inexcusable.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
True!


Regardless, I can't imagine anyone at that level calculating the fuel level wrong. It's just inexcusable.


Just add it to the list of inexcusable **** ups that Ferrari has made this year
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Old May 11, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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Last session was on hard tires right for Barrichello ?? I wonder why they chose to stay so long on hard tires in the end, and so short on soft tires after the first pit.


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Old May 11, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by letMeIn
Last session was on hard tires right for Barrichello ?? I wonder why they chose to stay so long on hard tires in the end, and so short on soft tires after the first pit.


Cool graph.


The short 2nd stint for RB was because they only added a small amount of fuel. RB's car was lighter than JB's for the 3rd and 4th stint; he should have been faster.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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Woot!

Originally Posted by Race 5
1 Bernie took my share 162
2 MitsuMcLarenF1 161
3 GoKimiGo 156
4 Lateral G 154
5 KevinD 150
6 inneedof 138
7 Mach 1 Diamond Star 124
8 DJ Truss 49
I've used my 4 JB races up...
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Old May 11, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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Old May 12, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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Ferrari calling FIA's bluff!!! They threaten to leave F1 @ end of season unless budget cap is lifted. FIA has a few days to comply because cutoff date for 2010 F1 entrants is May 29th. Oh the f'ing drama!!......
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,1895...318108,00.html
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Old May 12, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NoTec
Ferrari calling FIA's bluff!!! They threaten to leave F1 @ end of season unless budget cap is lifted. FIA has a few days to comply because cutoff date for 2010 F1 entrants is May 29th. Oh the f'ing drama!!......
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,1895...318108,00.html
wow... drama drama drama
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Old May 13, 2009 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by NoTec
Ferrari calling FIA's bluff!!! They threaten to leave F1 @ end of season unless budget cap is lifted. FIA has a few days to comply because cutoff date for 2010 F1 entrants is May 29th. Oh the f'ing drama!!......
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,1895...318108,00.html
I don't think it's the cap that Ferrari is mad about. Its the fact that under the current rules for F1 next season there would be a two tiered format with some teams having an open book on regulations regarding things like aero and longer use of KERS, while the teams that don't abide by the bufget are stuck in the current regs they have now. Thus creating two different technical packages... That is what ferrari and other teams are worried about. I believe RedBull also said they would most likely not compete if the rules for next season don't change.

Yes, lots of drama...
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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Add Renault to that list.

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,189...321385,00.html

Bernie asking for common sense?

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,189...321323,00.html

That has got to be one of the most hypocritical things I have ever heard! LOL
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