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View Poll Results: 2009 Driver's Championship winner?
Lewis Hamilton
6.06%
Kimi Raikkonen
6.06%
Felipe Massa
10.61%
Jenson Button
57.58%
Rubens Barrichello
1.52%
Jarno Trulli
4.55%
Timo Glock
0
0%
Nick Heidfeld
0
0%
Robert Kubica
1.52%
Fernando Alonso
3.03%
Sebastien Vettel
7.58%
Someone else
1.52%
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Old May 10, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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F U Ferrari... Get your ish together or go run in the IRL!!!

My team is falling apart and I can't stand to see it happen any longer. I hope Luca makes heads roll over this one.

Brawn just looks unstoppable...

I agree 100%

I have decided that for the rest of the year i am a red bull fan, next year i will go back to cheering for Ferrari
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Old May 10, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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well, Rubens got screwed again just like good old times at ferrari with Brawn/Schumi, and now Brawn/Button

good catch, my bad

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Old May 10, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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well, Rubens got screwed again just like good old times at ferrari with Brown/Schumi, and now Brown/Button
I don't think he got screwed. If he were the driver who won 3 of 4 races, Jenson would have been the one who would have been on the three stop strategy. Talk about an awkward post race conference though. You could easily tell that Rubens was upset.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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Rubens needs to understand that the change in strategy was to help the team not to help Jenson. Having 2 cars stacked in the pits would have hurt the teams overall points for the race. Changing strategy like they did didn't hurt the overall team points.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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he was heavier than Button and still was faster. Yet they decided to give him 3 stop strategy, and 2 for Button . hmm . I hope Rubens won't allow them to make him play a supporting role for Button, and will fight for championship, especially since his racing carrier is near its end .

we still have 12 races left. A lot can happen. Because Button won 3 races doesn't mean he should automatically be made #1 contender in the team for championship, thus forcing Rubens to step aside.

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Old May 11, 2009 | 07:33 AM
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Both BRAWN (you guys keep spelling it wrong) cars were on a 3 stopper to begin with. The team didn't change Rubens to a three, they changed Jensen to a 2. . Didn't you hear Jensen on the radio in the first stint urging Rubens to go quicker... he knew they had to get away to make it work. Rubens should have won that race, he had the gap, just didn't make it work in the third stint.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by grillpt
Both BRAWN (you guys keep spelling it wrong) cars were on a 3 stopper to begin with. The team didn't change Rubens to a three, they changed Jensen to a 2. . Didn't you hear Jensen on the radio in the first stint urging Rubens to go quicker... he knew they had to get away to make it work. Rubens should have won that race, he had the gap, just didn't make it work in the third stint.

They both started of on a 2 stop strategy, and due to fear that they were going to be stacked in the pits on the second stop, RB only received 3-4 seconds of fuel. With the lighter weight then JB at that point JB was urging him to go faster..... at least that is how i remember the race.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 08:17 AM
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Rubens' 3rd stint was awful. New tires, light fuel, and he was slower than JB, SV, and Massa all with more fuel and hard tires... I know he was disappointed, but he needed to be quicker when he was light. He was faster at the start, just lost the pace.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Billy@EnglishRacing
Rubens needs to understand that the change in strategy was to help the team not to help Jenson. Having 2 cars stacked in the pits would have hurt the teams overall points for the race. Changing strategy like they did didn't hurt the overall team points.
Agreed. During the conference Button said they switched him to a 2 stop strategy and they had originally thought the 3 stop strategy was faster which Barichello was on. But it turned out the 2 stop strategy was faster.

What a crazy crash during the begining of the race, all caused thanks to Nico Rossberg. He single handedly managed to take out 2 Redbull, 1 Toyota and 1 Force India car.

What about that pass by Fernando Alonso on the outside over Phillipe Massa at the end of the race?
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Old May 11, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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At least Rosberg only took out the back half i wish he would have got LH while he was at it though
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Old May 11, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
Agreed. During the conference Button said they switched him to a 2 stop strategy and they had originally thought the 3 stop strategy was faster which Barichello was on. But it turned out the 2 stop strategy was faster.

What a crazy crash during the begining of the race, all caused thanks to Nico Rossberg. He single handedly managed to take out 2 Redbull, 1 Toyota and 1 Force India car.

What about that pass by Fernando Alonso on the outside over Phillipe Massa at the end of the race?
Massa had to hate the fact that he was forced to let Alonso by so he wouldn't run out of fuel
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Old May 11, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Billy@EnglishRacing
At least Rosberg only took out the back half i wish he would have got LH while he was at it though
Funny you should mention that, Hamilton BARELY managed to get away unscathed. Too bad ...
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Old May 11, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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Massa should have let Vettel by sooner, he could have maintained a pace fast enough to hold Alonso at bay.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
Funny you should mention that, Hamilton BARELY managed to get away unscathed. Too bad ...

it was super close, i was impressed that he made it through. His on board camera view was pretty intense.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
Rubens' 3rd stint was awful. New tires, light fuel, and he was slower than JB, SV, and Massa all with more fuel and hard tires... I know he was disappointed, but he needed to be quicker when he was light. He was faster at the start, just lost the pace.
If you recall, during that conf. he also claimed that he had bad tires in that third stint and then backpedaled and said something was wrong with the car. I thought that was pretty weak.
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