Perfect Track Wheels Thread
Just for reference, here's a little writeup I did when mine failed.
http://holunfie.blogspot.com/2008/04/studdly.html
http://holunfie.blogspot.com/2008/04/studdly.html
Seeing many wheels come in and out of our shop....
It's hard to leave out the Enkei RPF1's, when someone asks for track wheels.
Most will want to have at least two sets, and with the going prices of these you can do just that.
17x9.5 +18 RPF1's weighing in at 16.5 pounds is hard to beat, when the retail price is $295.00 each. Spoke were designed with big brake kits in mind.
Next is the Weds TC105N's
Equally light, still much much cheaper then the CE28N's which are extremely light.
The 17x9.5 TC105N's weighed in right around 16.9 pounds if I remember correctly.
WEDS sport wheels are also manufactured by Enkei Wheels Japan using the same MAT technology as Enkei RPF1's.
I think one thing that most people over look is the weight of the tires.
you can have the lightest wheels, but when you throw on those heavy rubbers... all that research into wheel weight goes out the window.
It's hard to leave out the Enkei RPF1's, when someone asks for track wheels.
Most will want to have at least two sets, and with the going prices of these you can do just that.
17x9.5 +18 RPF1's weighing in at 16.5 pounds is hard to beat, when the retail price is $295.00 each. Spoke were designed with big brake kits in mind.
Next is the Weds TC105N's
Equally light, still much much cheaper then the CE28N's which are extremely light.
The 17x9.5 TC105N's weighed in right around 16.9 pounds if I remember correctly.
WEDS sport wheels are also manufactured by Enkei Wheels Japan using the same MAT technology as Enkei RPF1's.
I think one thing that most people over look is the weight of the tires.
you can have the lightest wheels, but when you throw on those heavy rubbers... all that research into wheel weight goes out the window.
I dont think people leave that thought out so much as realise there is usually nothing you can do about it. What ever is the stickiest rubber (for your budget) you can get is what you should be using. Wheels on the other hand just need to be the right size. Anyone have the link of the japanese test comparing stiffness? IIRC, they said cheap & light = flexible and slow. They had faster times with a heavy stiff wheel than a cheap light wheel.
http://www.speedelement.com/images/h...tion_test1.jpg
http://www.speedelement.com/images/h...tion_test2.jpg
http://www.speedelement.com/images/h...tion_test3.jpg
http://www.speedelement.com/images/h...tion_test4.jpg
http://www.speedelement.com/images/h...tion_test5.jpg
I copied all the pages too just in case they ever go down.
http://www.speedelement.com/images/h...tion_test2.jpg
http://www.speedelement.com/images/h...tion_test3.jpg
http://www.speedelement.com/images/h...tion_test4.jpg
http://www.speedelement.com/images/h...tion_test5.jpg
I copied all the pages too just in case they ever go down.
Reading through the magazine, they claim on a 65 sec road course the stiffer wheels were worth 0.5 sec.
Anyone here who's been autocrossing a while knows races are won and lost by less than 1/10s at times. If the article holds true, then it really puts merit in spending money on quality wheels.
Anyone here who's been autocrossing a while knows races are won and lost by less than 1/10s at times. If the article holds true, then it really puts merit in spending money on quality wheels.
While it is an interesting article and I'm glad enkei did the tests, I think it can be slightly misleading. They are comparing a wheel against a modified wheel. They shaved material from the wheel for the "lightweight verson" which hurt the rigidity of the original design. I would have liked it better if they compared this wheel against one of their lightweight models like the RPF1.
Seeing many wheels come in and out of our shop....
It's hard to leave out the Enkei RPF1's, when someone asks for track wheels.
Most will want to have at least two sets, and with the going prices of these you can do just that.
17x9.5 +18 RPF1's weighing in at 16.5 pounds is hard to beat, when the retail price is $295.00 each. Spoke were designed with big brake kits in mind.
Next is the Weds TC105N's
Equally light, still much much cheaper then the CE28N's which are extremely light.
The 17x9.5 TC105N's weighed in right around 16.9 pounds if I remember correctly.
WEDS sport wheels are also manufactured by Enkei Wheels Japan using the same MAT technology as Enkei RPF1's.
I think one thing that most people over look is the weight of the tires.
you can have the lightest wheels, but when you throw on those heavy rubbers... all that research into wheel weight goes out the window.
It's hard to leave out the Enkei RPF1's, when someone asks for track wheels.
Most will want to have at least two sets, and with the going prices of these you can do just that.
17x9.5 +18 RPF1's weighing in at 16.5 pounds is hard to beat, when the retail price is $295.00 each. Spoke were designed with big brake kits in mind.
Next is the Weds TC105N's
Equally light, still much much cheaper then the CE28N's which are extremely light.
The 17x9.5 TC105N's weighed in right around 16.9 pounds if I remember correctly.
WEDS sport wheels are also manufactured by Enkei Wheels Japan using the same MAT technology as Enkei RPF1's.
I think one thing that most people over look is the weight of the tires.
you can have the lightest wheels, but when you throw on those heavy rubbers... all that research into wheel weight goes out the window.
i hope you try to understand my post #22 in this thread
we are on the same page

Many people weight they rims to the 10th of the pound's , but when it comes to the tires ..... Looks like not too many people pay attention on the tire weight, and that is funny since between the tire and the wheel the tires are not the one's actually lighter. Or the wheel size. You can have a bad combo with tires and wheel with the lightest wheel type or brand, and weight more the a carefully chosen combo with a little bit heavier wheels.
Rob
Rob
There was also a test that Tire Rack did a while back.
I can't remember exactly, but I believe that the 17" wheel with slightly more narrower tire setup lapped in a better time then the 18" setup with a wider tire.
This obviously isn't true in all cases, but just a thought to be had, when you consider where you can shave off a pound or two.
I can't remember exactly, but I believe that the 17" wheel with slightly more narrower tire setup lapped in a better time then the 18" setup with a wider tire.
This obviously isn't true in all cases, but just a thought to be had, when you consider where you can shave off a pound or two.
There was also a test that Tire Rack did a while back.
I can't remember exactly, but I believe that the 17" wheel with slightly more narrower tire setup lapped in a better time then the 18" setup with a wider tire.
This obviously isn't true in all cases, but just a thought to be had, when you consider where you can shave off a pound or two.

I can't remember exactly, but I believe that the 17" wheel with slightly more narrower tire setup lapped in a better time then the 18" setup with a wider tire.
This obviously isn't true in all cases, but just a thought to be had, when you consider where you can shave off a pound or two.
While it does sounds good and definitely pimpin' , might actually hurt the overall performance. Specially if the power is not there.
Rob
i totally agree. with a nicely thought and set up tire and wheel combo is better then get a lightest brand but the widest rim it fits and widest tire idea... which is seems to me is a trend in the EVo community.
While it does sounds good and definitely pimpin' , might actually hurt the overall performance. Specially if the power is not there.
Rob
While it does sounds good and definitely pimpin' , might actually hurt the overall performance. Specially if the power is not there.
Rob









