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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 10:37 PM
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I am going to guess it varies widely. I have been running the same set of 5Zigen FN01R-C's for 5 years, regularly hitting 1.4G's and on and off the car hundreds of times and they are still fine. Others have had the same wheels crack and fail. . .
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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 12:32 AM
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I've used FN01RCs for a number of years as well on a variety of cars. Broke one not too long ago on the Evo. Tire lost pressure, couldn't seal around rim edge which cracked straight through. Crack developed from inner face damage (i.e. rash) from curb hopping. Couldn't see it without taking the wheel off.
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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Spool4Fun
What is everyone's experience with durability? How often are people seeing bent/deformed wheels on a track only set?
i think that is really depends on the track you are running and so on the tires and suspension.
Of course on your driving too.
So i think this will be hard to answer. On track there is really small amount of failure with wheels, the circumstances are ideal there really. Just look the suspension they running. very short travel and high rates. That should tell you all about the abuse they got alone.

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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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We have cracked a FN01R-C spoke on one of the 8 we have here. We think it happened hitting some curbing at the track. Haven't hurt any RPF-1 yet.
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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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Real Racing 16x10's on my car.




They make other sizes also. About $1500/set for three piece wheels. Mine are 17lbs each. With 3-piece, you can just replace shell pieces to make different widths, instead of buying new wheels.

Talk to Troy, tell him Mike Brausen sent you.
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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 10:09 AM
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I have 10" wide wheels too, but they fit perfectly under my fenders, lol. Looks like you have a little bit of POKE there
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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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those og rims are secci
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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by boomn29
Good Thread!

I'm pretty particular with my wheels these days. Probably because I've bought cheap ones in the past and paid the price. First were Rota's - Boost model not even sold anymore than literally broke all 5 spokes and came off the car. Bad ending (not my Evo).
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You are full of misinformation, not really sure what your deal is

The Rota Boost is still sold and was never discontinued. Out of the thousands of Rota Boost wheels on the road none have failed due to a manufacture defect. In your case... when a car is traveling at a high rate of speed, swerves off the freeway to avoid a deer, flips several times, is totaled, etc.. you really can't expect a wheel to survive. I mean look how busted your fender is, looks like you ran in to a wall but of course it's the wheels fault and not driver error
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SmokingTires
Real Racing 16x10's on my car.




They make other sizes also. About $1500/set for three piece wheels. Mine are 17lbs each. With 3-piece, you can just replace shell pieces to make different widths, instead of buying new wheels.

Talk to Troy, tell him Mike Brausen sent you.
Do they fit over the stock calipers - or are you running a small brake kit?? I am thinking about running 16's in the future to run Hoosier or Goodyear full slicks - but the only wide 16's I know fit are CCW's, and they are about DOUBLE that price. . .
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 06:44 PM
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Sorry, edited. . .

Originally Posted by dan avoN7
You are full of misinformation, not really sure what your deal is

The Rota Boost is still sold and was never discontinued. Out of the thousands of Rota Boost wheels on the road none have failed due to a manufacture defect. In your case... when a car is traveling at a high rate of speed, swerves off the freeway to avoid a deer, flips several times, is totaled, etc.. you really can't expect a wheel to survive. I mean look how busted your fender is, looks like you ran in to a wall but of course it's the wheels fault and not driver error
Originally Posted by dan avoN7
I worked closely with Rota Wheels for 5+ years I can honestly say they make a quality product.
You sound like a Rota Rep. . . .

Rotas are sh!tty knock-offs that weigh significantly more than the high quality wheels they attempt to copy. They may look similar, but they weigh more while being less strong. That is why they are cheap. They do have a purpose though - they are for street cars that want to look like race cars.

In my best Officer Barbrady voice - "There's nothing to see here. Move along!"

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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by EVOlutionary
Sorry, edited. . .
You sound like a Rota Rep. . . .

Rotas are sh!tty knock-offs that weigh significantly more than the high quality wheels they attempt to copy. They may look similar, but they weigh more while being less strong. That is why they are cheap. They do have a purpose though - they are for street cars that want to look like race cars.
Yes, I used to sell Rota Wheels. I was the "Dan" at WheelDude.com. I no longer sell Rota Wheels however when I see blatant BS I will call someone out on it. Like I said.. I have a lot of experience with the product and I believe they make quality wheels.

Your post is full of BS Weigh significantly more than the original wheels? I take it you haven't seen the Rota Torque wheel for the Evo X? The Rota Torque in 18x9.5 +20 weighs in at 22.4 lbs. The Work Emotion in the same 18x9.5 +20 fitment weighs in at 24 lbs Both wheels pass JWL/VIA test standards, both wheels are cast aluminum, etc.. Seems like a safe and lighter alternative to me??? Now there was a tiny tiny bit of merit in your post.. not all models are lighter than the originals. For a cast aluminum wheel to achieve similar strength to it's forged counterpart, the cast wheel will require more material.. thus a slightly higher wheel weight. They are cheaper due to the country of origin (cheap labor) and due to the less expensive manufacturing process (casting).


EVOlutionary, did these REAL race teams not get the memo? Oh well, looks like they are doing just fine running Rota's
















I no longer sell Rota Wheels, I've owned Volk Racing/Work Wheels for my personal cars, etc.. I'm just an enthusiast with a lot of experience in the aftermarket wheel business who likes to call out BS when I see it Hell when I opened this thread and read your initial post, I was impressed with your wheel selection. Offset/fitment, weight, etc.. is spot on and if I was picking a track set I would probably purchase the Wedsport TC105N wheels as well. I just wanted to straighten some misinformation as what boom29 posted was a blatant lie. Rota's may not be the best track option but they are still a good option that will work well and will be safe on the track.

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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 02:43 PM
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^hey Dan its good to hear from you again!
Thanks for the sponsorship when you where there!
BTW my Rota DPTs have been fine in all areas... plenty of track miles with slicks on them... Curbs, G outs whatever, they are still straight. Oh did I mention they are 20lbs?
I got to post some updated pics here soon but I have been pretty busy.

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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 03:07 PM
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Being honest rota is not known yet in racing. All those cars run a lower level racing, where sponsorship usually out weights the safety or performance goals just to be at the events or make it cheaper.
Basically you run what you got cheaper, so you can make it to more events and being out there. Which is a big deal for us and that level of racing.
I'm not bashing rota , just stating the fact, which probably we all know. I did some sponsorship deals for cheap parts too. We are not at the level where we can choose our sponsor freely. When Rota gets that level to being picked by real pro teams , then everyone will acknowledge them happily.
Until then, please do not try to implant it for us they are equal or even better, like Your example the Volk's.
Rotas find they place on the market obviously, which is already a big deal, but dont go over the head yet. They have they own place> but that is not a race world yet. There is much to prove before you really want to come out and challenge companies like Volk.

An idea : lets begin with they own design for a good start. That will give them a whole another point of view for people. Until then; no racing history - no own design, that just simply falls back to the "they also ran" category...

Press on
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pls do not make this a Rota vs the best track wheels thread, really unnecessary here . This is not a show and shine thread above, or a general forum. Many people know they stuff here, and many times they own experience, and from try and error testing. Not from magazines or "he told me" - "my friend has it" stores.

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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bchappy
^hey Dan its good to hear from you again!
Thanks for the sponsorship when you where there!
BTW my Rota DPTs have been fine in all areas... plenty of track miles with slicks on them... Curbs, G outs whatever, they are still straight. Oh did I mention they are 20lbs?
I got to post some updated pics here soon but I have been pretty busy.
No problem Brandon! I've always loved your ride and would love to see some updated pictures of it
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Being honest rota is not know yet in racing. All thosE cars run a lower level racing where sponsorship means usually out weights. Safety or performance goals just to be at the events or make it cheaper. Basically you run what youi got cheaper so you can make it to more events and being out there.
I'm not bashing rota , just staing the fact which probably we all know. I did some sponsorship deals for cheap parts. we are not at the level where we can choose our sponsor. When Rota gets there. Everyone will acknowledge them.
Untill they are not there please do not try to implant for us they are equal or even better then. Your example the volk.

Press on Rob
I'm sorry Rob but safety is always a concern for every single team running Rota Wheels, to say it isn't is just absurd! LIC Motorsports opted to not run the super session at Infineon Raceway last season due to the shear amount of rain on the track as it was a safety concern. If they had ran the super session they would have earned enough points to secure a top finish in Redline Time Attack Modified class. Their owner is extremely "OCD" about their car and keeping it in top shape with quality products and they still choose to run Rota Wheels

GST Motorsports was approached by Mackin Industries every year with a new sponsorship proposal for Volk Racing Wheels. GST Motorsports to this very day is still running Rota Wheels

Rota wheels aren't common in the highest tiers of racing like F1, etc.. That's because Rota manufactures cast aluminum wheels for the general masses and these racing teams in F1 need the lightest possible wheel while still retaining strength. Rota does not manufacture forged wheels so they will never have the lightest wheel out there and thus they will probably never be used in these forms of racing. Does everyone need a $5K+ set of forged magnesium wheels to daily drive their car or have fun at a track event, nope! I never once said Rota Wheels were better, in fact, if I had to choose between the two I would take the Volk Racing Wheels but to say the Rota's aren't safe is absurd
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dan avoN7
No problem Brandon! I've always loved your ride and would love to see some updated pictures of it

I'm sorry Rob but safety is always a concern for every single team running Rota Wheels, to say it isn't is just absurd! LIC Motorsports opted to not run the super session at Infineon Raceway last season due to the shear amount of rain on the track as it was a safety concern. If they had ran the super session they would have earned enough points to secure a top finish in Redline Time Attack Modified class. Their owner is extremely "OCD" about their car and keeping it in top shape with quality products and they still choose to run Rota Wheels

GST Motorsports was approached by Mackin Industries every year with a new sponsorship proposal for Volk Racing Wheels. GST Motorsports to this very day is still running Rota Wheels

Rota wheels aren't common in the highest tiers of racing like F1, etc.. That's because Rota manufactures cast aluminum wheels for the general masses and these racing teams in F1 need the lightest possible wheel while still retaining strength. Rota does not manufacture forged wheels so they will never have the lightest wheel out there and thus they will probably never be used in these forms of racing. Does everyone need a $5K+ set of forged magnesium wheels to daily drive their car or have fun at a track event, nope! I never once said Rota Wheels were better, in fact, if I had to choose between the two I would take the Volk Racing Wheels but to say the Rota's aren't safe is absurd

im not sure i said they are unsafe, here. I think you miss read it or i wrote it wrong. I didnt meant to do that. The word safety covers lots of grounds in racing though.
To not running in rain is something i do not concern safety call, if you are a racer or you are equipped for that. /like nascar is not equipped for rain/. I have another thoughts on that, if the other teams were racing in that day. No one likes to race alone ... LOL

Also the Enkei's for example are not 5K+ wheels and easily out perform Rotas. So they are a MUCH better choice for track.
It is a HUGE misleading everything cost 5K+ but Rota... it is a favorite scam from Rota dealers. I am not sure this is a section where you can sell that.

I have SPeedline Corse wheels which are also very decent price ( you will be suprised) and a EXACT SAME wheels what the WRC guys run...

Top of that , that company has 70 world championship under they belt and counting. Put that in contest and you will find the Rotas are actually not even cheap for what they are.

i think that is enough for Rota vs track wheels. I said what i wanted to about this already. But thanks to reading and try to understanding me.

Rob

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