Notices
Motor Sports If you like rallying, road racing, autoxing, or track events, then this is the spot for you.

Official 2013 Formula One Discussion Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 10, 2013 | 02:44 PM
  #226  
honda-guy's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (55)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 3,589
Likes: 37
From: Central PA
so what's all these noise about RB using traction control


Reply
Old Oct 10, 2013 | 03:09 PM
  #227  
honda-guy's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (55)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 3,589
Likes: 37
From: Central PA
http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/08108
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2013 | 03:18 PM
  #228  
WestSideBilly's Avatar
El Jefe
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,965
Likes: 84
From: Asleep at the wheel
Originally Posted by honda-guy
...and legal.
Not so sure about that.


I'm curious to know that if they have such a refined system... why doesn't Webber benefit? Why would RB only use the system on one car?
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2013 | 04:17 PM
  #229  
honda-guy's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (55)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 3,589
Likes: 37
From: Central PA
If they using kers recharing system as traction control, could be why webber always has issues with kers.
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2013 | 05:18 PM
  #230  
WestSideBilly's Avatar
El Jefe
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,965
Likes: 84
From: Asleep at the wheel
It does explain the electrical issues. But doesn't explain Webber's (lack of) performance.
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2013 | 06:14 PM
  #231  
honda-guy's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (55)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 3,589
Likes: 37
From: Central PA
Webber's lack of performance cause he suck. Lol
Maybe they were using his car to test new stuff. They knew they were going to end his contract. Maybe he'll spill the beans next year when hes out of F1
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2013 | 07:52 PM
  #232  
SDevo13's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 719
Likes: 0
From: SD
If that is what Red Bull is doing you can bet your house that the rules will change for next year stating that the KERS charging system can only be active under braking.

This is no different than the exhaust blown diffuser. Your engineering/design team in F1 is EVERYTHING. If they wanted a 'spec' series they would all be the same cars.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2013 | 06:19 AM
  #233  
grillpt's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,680
Likes: 5
From: 610
Hey, what do you know... RB called Mark in for an extra stop he didn't need. Imagine that.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2013 | 08:23 AM
  #234  
WestSideBilly's Avatar
El Jefe
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,965
Likes: 84
From: Asleep at the wheel
Yeah. Hard to spin that one any way but "sorry Mark, not today".
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2013 | 06:31 AM
  #235  
grillpt's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,680
Likes: 5
From: 610
Oh hey, what do you know... Webber is forced to pull over and stop the car. Imagine that!
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2013 | 06:55 AM
  #236  
SDevo13's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 719
Likes: 0
From: SD
It sounds like Vettel's car was having the same issue. They had him stop using all unnecessary electronics with like five laps to go. I doubt it was a "keep Webber away from Vettel kind of thing." He had no chance of making up 10s on Vettel in the closing laps.
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2013 | 07:44 AM
  #237  
211Ratsbud's Avatar
EvoM Guru
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,286
Likes: 43
From: Watertown, NY
Originally Posted by honda-guy
If they using kers recharing system as traction control, could be why webber always has issues with kers.
Comes to finesse, knowing how to use it as an advantage vs over using it. If it were the case I imagine technique and usage are great factors here. Also probably has a rather ghostly line between the two states
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2013 | 11:14 AM
  #238  
grillpt's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,680
Likes: 5
From: 610
Originally Posted by SDevo13
It sounds like Vettel's car was having the same issue. They had him stop using all unnecessary electronics with like five laps to go. I doubt it was a "keep Webber away from Vettel kind of thing." He had no chance of making up 10s on Vettel in the closing laps.
I don't disagree with you about Mark not being able to close the gap. I just think its funny that the guy has a 90point lead, could sit out 3 races and still win the championship, yet they let him continue while Webber has to stop.
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2013 | 11:26 AM
  #239  
WestSideBilly's Avatar
El Jefe
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,965
Likes: 84
From: Asleep at the wheel
It seemed like MW's car had a few more gremlins than Seb's did... there was radio communication about the transmission not syncing up (which I assume means it was not shifting at the right times, or not rev matching right?).

Don't forget Seb had to pull over for an alternator failure last year @ Valencia.
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2013 | 11:52 AM
  #240  
SDevo13's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 719
Likes: 0
From: SD
Originally Posted by grillpt
I don't disagree with you about Mark not being able to close the gap. I just think its funny that the guy has a 90point lead, could sit out 3 races and still win the championship, yet they let him continue while Webber has to stop.
You do realize they would win the driver championship and constructor's even if Webber passed Vettel right? To think they pulled Mark off track cause he 'might' catch Vettel is retarded. They are two different cars. I am sure that Vettel;s gets more attention than Webber's but that is beside the point. Obviously Vettel's issue wasn't to the point that Webber's was. They had him stop using stuff to prevent the same thing from happening.

I think its funny how many Webber nut huggers think that everything is to spite him. He IS the #2 driver. The only way he out performs Vettel is when Vettel's car is broken (read no DRS in quals earlier this season). He may get the back-up strategy but what do you expect for a driver who regularly drops 5+ positions on starts.

Furthermore, the fact that everyone whines about the race Vettel took from Webber is hilarious. Webber has tried to do the same on many occasions. Vettel just pulled it off (something Webber hadn't done).
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:31 AM.