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Old Jun 20, 2017, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by laloosh
Alright Ladies and Gentlemen I need some help/direction. I am a hair under 6'6 and weigh 250lbs with a 36 inch waist. I really want to put a seat in the EVO X and was thinking of going with this:

http://www.murraymotorsport.com/prod...seat-008802fnr

My main goal here to get the seat as low as possible for obviously reasons (6'6 ). Does anybody here have experience with what my best options are regarding getting the seat as low as possible? I would like to avoid custom fab work, I don't care about sliders and am not against just bolting the thing in a fix'ed position as nobody drivers my car outside of me. If I have codrivers....oh well sucks for them lol.

I have never put an aftermarket seat into any of my cars and am wondering what to do with the seat belt, air bags, wiring. Also what can I expect drop wise cause if all this work is for an inch or so, then it simply might not be worth the time and effort. Thanks in advance.
I'm about 4" shorter than you, so maybe fitment is much more exaggerated for you, but I found that the Buddy Club Super Low Down rails worked well with my NRG seat with no cushions. If you pull the cushions out, 1) your field of view is lower, so you have to look farther ahead, 2) It should drop you down a few inches.
Old Jun 21, 2017, 06:59 AM
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quick question, does open ECU = piggyback ECUs too, or is a piggyback considered easily detected hardware? asking for a friend adding a jb1 to his gti
answering my own question here:

The proposal regarding the changes to allow open ECUs (open boost via changes in the ECU) and plug-and-play engine control modules is intended to address the inability to enforce the current rule, while continuing to allow common tuning modifications.
ok so p&p (friend's here: http://www.burgertuning.com/vw_volks...JB1_tuner.html), easily detectable, a physical addition, is okay - but MBCs, because they are easily detectable, are not okay. great rule here lmao. it's 1999 again and we should all be running apexi piggybacks!
Old Jun 21, 2017, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
ok so p&p (friend's here: http://www.burgertuning.com/vw_volks...JB1_tuner.html), easily detectable, a physical addition, is okay - but MBCs, because they are easily detectable, are not okay. great rule here lmao. it's 1999 again and we should all be running apexi piggybacks!
So, just make a box with MBC inside that connects to the ECU with some wiring and vacuum lines and call it piggy back!!
Old Jun 21, 2017, 09:14 AM
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So, just make a box with MBC inside that connects to the ECU with some wiring and vacuum lines and call it piggy back!!
You mean an electronic boost controller?
Old Jun 21, 2017, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
You mean an electronic boost controller?
Now you are getting too fancy!! Good old nob on the MBC worked so good over the years!!
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Originally Posted by kyoo
answering my own question here:



ok so p&p (friend's here: http://www.burgertuning.com/vw_volks...JB1_tuner.html), easily detectable, a physical addition, is okay - but MBCs, because they are easily detectable, are not okay. great rule here lmao. it's 1999 again and we should all be running apexi piggybacks!
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So, just make a box with MBC inside that connects to the ECU with some wiring and vacuum lines and call it piggy back!!
not trying to go down this rabbit hole again. just pointing out another blatant contradiction in the logic of how they went about this.
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ASP beckons...
Old Jun 21, 2017, 11:40 AM
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ASP is hard because, for some reason, race tires are allowed in a "street" class.
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Well...they are DOT legal...
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They also say for comp use only on the sidewall...lol. I think my NT01's say not for street or highway use or something like that.
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logical rules beckon...

that said, is this going to be legal now?
https://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/-p-151538617.html (AEM Infinity Plug n Play ECU)


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all right guys. looks like the AEM PNP ECU allows boost control. that's the solution guys. a few thousand bucks instead of $75 to be STU legal. yaaaaay

checking to see what the sandbox thinks of this insanity.

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You still can't change the boost control solenoid lol
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
You still can't change the boost control solenoid lol
according to what I've looked into on this unit, doesn't seem to matter
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The stock ECU has boost control on the Evo. The solenoid is the limiting factor, not the ECU. Putting an AEM inifinity on the car will net the same results as far as how much boost you make goes.
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
The stock ECU has boost control on the Evo. The solenoid is the limiting factor, not the ECU. Putting an AEM inifinity on the car will net the same results as far as how much boost you make goes.
Yea I'm not sure the intricacies as I've never ran an AEM before. From what I've seen there are a lot of moving pieces with it, but certainly more optimal than a stock ECU, and whatever the stock ECU can do with the stock BCS, the AEM can do and better - and apparently, may be legal in this class.


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