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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
i wouldnt consider it to be to much stress on doing circles btw. let clutch out, cut wheel, floor the gas, watch 4 individual investments literally turn to smoke before you very eyes.

I would venture to say my stock clutch lasted me about 11,000 miles. (got tuned at around 7000 miles with and exhaust) Changed it with an exedy twin in march of 07. On the stock clutch i launched it about 40+ times at the track, and countless times on the street. I do drive like an idiot at times, no doubt... But i would say my clutch went in an orderly fashion, wasnt like the car was bone stock and 2000 miles. I used to cut 1.6 60' times on it, but as time went on they started dipping to 1.8/1.9 sec
a launch is a launch man. once you get the clutch engaged whatever happens after that is really irrelevant. it doesn't matter if you're going straight, cutting cones, or tearing up a road course. you launch the same way, hit the rev limiter and let the boost build then go. it's not like there is some super secret autox launching technique where you baby the clutch.

i'll make you a deal, you admit that you are talking out of your *** to try to convince people into thinking you have some sort of clue, and i will leave you alone about it. that sounds fair, right?
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MondoBongo
a launch is a launch man. once you get the clutch engaged whatever happens after that is really irrelevant. it doesn't matter if you're going straight, cutting cones, or tearing up a road course. you launch the same way, hit the rev limiter and let the boost build then go. it's not like there is some super secret autox launching technique where you baby the clutch.

i'll make you a deal, you admit that you are talking out of your *** to try to convince people into thinking you have some sort of clue, and i will leave you alone about it. that sounds fair, right?

No deal.

listen here kid, its not the same. How often do you go to your little autox track or road course and they prep the starting line with VHT or any other sticking agent for traction? I dont recall that ever happening, and i have been to a *few* events of each with and without my evo as a spectator and a driver.

Thats where you need to just shut your mouth, and just read rather than jumping on other peoples responses. So next time you are at your nice smooth parking lot with dirt, leaves and crazy caterpillars at the starting line remember how you were a total bad *** when you got all 4 tires to spin off the line ..


When the wheels dont spin, the stress goes to the clutch. If the clutch doesnt slip, the stress goes to the transmission.

Have a nice day.
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
No deal.

listen here kid, its not the same. How often do you go to your little autox track or road course and they prep the starting line with VHT or any other sticking agent for traction? I dont recall that ever happening, and i have been to a *few* events of each with and without my evo as a spectator and a driver.

Thats where you need to just shut your mouth, and just read rather than jumping on other peoples responses. So next time you are at your nice smooth parking lot with dirt, leaves and crazy caterpillars at the starting line remember how you were a total bad *** when you got all 4 tires to spin off the line ..


When the wheels dont spin, the stress goes to the clutch. If the clutch doesnt slip, the stress goes to the transmission.

Have a nice day.
ok "kid"

i love the way you can rationalize anything even if it doesn't really make sense.

since i have nice fat sticky street tires and less 350whp i don't get much if any tire spin. so i guess the stress of my launches is going to my magic gear or something and not the clutch?

next time you open your mouth to speak, maybe you should have some verifiable information to back up your claim. since you don't autocross and i don't believe you have ever even been to an autocross i would say you need to re-think your position. where as i have been drag racing, and have been to the street to watch more than once.

as i recall even with a good amount of vht on the strip you can still get plenty of tire spin off the line if you want it and have the horsepower. and from what i have seen/heard prp is actually one of the slicker tracks around when compared to many of the other drag strips such as where the shootout is held.

at any rate i think most of us can come together and agree that your sole purpose here is to project that you're some sort of expert which is blatantly false to everyone but you. it's amusing as all get out though.

it is what it is though. i don't think anyone or anything will ever be able to cure your delusions of grandeur, so might as well roll with it, right?

maybe while you're at it you can give me some good advice on what cams to purchase or who i should have my car built at. i would prefer cams that don't snap though and a car that actually makes power and can run a decent time. guess i should probably ask someone else about that then, huh?

get a clue man. your messianic complex is only placating yourself. your ignorance is very transparent to other people.
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
well stock stuff starts slipping soon as you tune the car.

I suggest the Exedy Twin disk. ACT sucks.
This statement as it sits is total BS......tell that to my 62k mile clutch that has been on a modified car since 500 miles on the odo.

Now if you were to add the following:

"well stock stuff starts slipping soon as you tune the car and take it to the track for pass after pass cutting low 60's" - That I will agree with, and I think this whole argument could have been avoided if you would have chosen to not be so vague.
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MondoBongo
ok "kid"

i love the way you can rationalize anything even if it doesn't really make sense.

since i have nice fat sticky street tires and less 350whp i don't get much if any tire spin. so i guess the stress of my launches is going to my magic gear or something and not the clutch?

next time you open your mouth to speak, maybe you should have some verifiable information to back up your claim. since you don't autocross and i don't believe you have ever even been to an autocross i would say you need to re-think your position. where as i have been drag racing, and have been to the street to watch more than once.

as i recall even with a good amount of vht on the strip you can still get plenty of tire spin off the line if you want it and have the horsepower. and from what i have seen/heard prp is actually one of the slicker tracks around when compared to many of the other drag strips such as where the shootout is held.

at any rate i think most of us can come together and agree that your sole purpose here is to project that you're some sort of expert which is blatantly false to everyone but you. it's amusing as all get out though.

it is what it is though. i don't think anyone or anything will ever be able to cure your delusions of grandeur, so might as well roll with it, right?

maybe while you're at it you can give me some good advice on what cams to purchase or who i should have my car built at. i would prefer cams that don't snap though and a car that actually makes power and can run a decent time. guess i should probably ask someone else about that then, huh?

get a clue man. your messianic complex is only placating yourself. your ignorance is very transparent to other people.
Haha u funny.. My cam snapped bc it was a poor design.. Take a look on here and see there are pleanty of cases of cams snapping. Cosworth wouldny have sent me. New on over night if they thought it was my fault . It was a poor design , and was revised by every company that had the issue. Kelfords, gsc, cosworth etc etc.. And i dont care what you think, prp recently cut and repoured the who 60' pad, and till you try it dont knock it. 255 are not beefy tires (if thats what your running.. ( and u JUST got those recentpy if i recall). Get off your high horse and think about other aspects that may cause early failure in stock components...
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by travman
I think this whole argument could have been avoided if you would have chosen to not be so vague.

i still contend that goat are more interesting to fondle than penguins.

wait, what were we talking about again?
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by travman
This statement as it sits is total BS......tell that to my 62k mile clutch that has been on a modified car since 500 miles on the odo.

Now if you were to add the following:

"well stock stuff starts slipping soon as you tune the car and take it to the track for pass after pass cutting low 60's" - That I will agree with, and I think this whole argument could have been avoided if you would have chosen to not be so vague.



I attempted, and did say that recently.

and mondo sticky tires work best warm correct? How warm are you tires when you approach the starting line? Im sure after a few hot laps or hard turns they become sticky im sure cold they are possibly like any other tire, or am i totally wrong?
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
Myself and a few other friends who now all have exedy clutches and some have ACT have noticed when mitsu designed the stock clutch, they designed it to give out first to save things like the transmission and ACD etc etc.
glad captain obvious came to the rescue......
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
I attempted, and did say that recently.

and mondo sticky tires work best warm correct? How warm are you tires when you approach the starting line? Im sure after a few hot laps or hard turns they become sticky im sure cold they are possibly like any other tire, or am i totally wrong?
yes but AFTER you made a crap comment - then as always back peddled your way out with more info to make the first statement have validity.

next time - add more info if you mean more than what you say, were not mind readers.
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
Haha u funny.. My cam snapped bc it was a poor design.. Take a look on here and see there are pleanty of cases of cams snapping. Cosworth wouldny have sent me. New on over night if they thought it was my fault . It was a poor design , and was revised by every company that had the issue. Kelfords, gsc, cosworth etc etc.. And i dont care what you think, prp recently cut and repoured the who 60' pad, and till you try it dont knock it. 255 are not beefy tires (if thats what your running.. ( and u JUST got those recentpy if i recall). Get off your high horse and think about other aspects that may cause early failure in stock components...

recently as in spring (april/mayish i believe. which for a set of tires on my car is practically ancient). before that i had a nice of 245's, and for the stock fender shape 255 is as beefy as you get. i've also had the pleasure of using the nitto DOT legal R Comps in a 255. quite enjoyable to drive on, but sadly still no clutch destruction from launching. maybe if i hit it with a wrench?

prp recently re-did their track? so my point is still valid. thanks for clarifying that for me.

and as i recall, i was the one who suggested another aspect as to why the stock parts might fail, but if you're intent on sticking by your point, then knock yourself.
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
I attempted, and did say that recently.

and mondo sticky tires work best warm correct? How warm are you tires when you approach the starting line? Im sure after a few hot laps or hard turns they become sticky im sure cold they are possibly like any other tire, or am i totally wrong?
that's a non sequiter. first off because street tires are made to dissipate heat, and secondly because with cold or warm r comps i still don't spin. therefore the grip advantage of warm r comps is negate in this situation unless we start talking about cornering.

not sure what you're getting at here? this really doesn't seem to have any relevance.
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MondoBongo
recently as in spring (april/mayish i believe. which for a set of tires on my car is practically ancient). before that i had a nice of 245's, and for the stock fender shape 255 is as beefy as you get. i've also had the pleasure of using the nitto DOT legal R Comps in a 255. quite enjoyable to drive on, but sadly still no clutch destruction from launching. maybe if i hit it with a wrench?

prp recently re-did their track? so my point is still valid. thanks for clarifying that for me.

and as i recall, i was the one who suggested another aspect as to why the stock parts might fail, but if you're intent on sticking by your point, then knock yourself.

Recently as in like 4 years ago.. I quit you win
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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I've been doing my best to launch and spin the tires on the way to work for the past year. Justin can attest to this.

A launch or two every day for a year even on my low HP stock car is mighty impressive from a stock unit.

I was pretty much set on another twin disk when I killed this one. Now I'm not so sure.
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
Recently as in like 4 years ago.. I quit you win
it's no fun if you just give up. wanna talk politics instead?

i could brow beat you day and night about that.
Old Oct 6, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Evol.ved
I was pretty much set on another twin disk when I killed this one. Now I'm not so sure.
The spec twin disc is what I have my eye on.....currently I am saving money for more important things in my life first, hence why my clutch is in survival mode currently.

The chatter on the spec twin is minimal to non-existent so I have read and comes with the hydraulic release bearing to convert to a push type. Its the same unit found on the quarter master clutch.....plus the price is right on them.

Now I just need lots of monies to come my way



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