TeeJay's Quest For 700+whp Stock Block discussion thread

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Oct 20, 2009 | 07:57 PM
  #391  
Quote: No one is **** talking you, DG or anyone else. We were just pointing out the fact that DG is using an excessive correction factor.

Best of luck with the car, no need to blow the engine though.
Dude, where the hell u been? read pages 17-23

Quote: We have pushed stock and stock appearing turbos past 30psi on the stock ecu with no problems...This much larger turbo is more likely hitting the higher loads it should be hence our map sensor issue hopefully.
right, what he just said

Quote: Is the car going to be run at the track after it meets the dyno goal? The ETS X just went 10.8@133.
I plan on attending (2) events held at E-Town on Nov. 1st and 15th. But will be at my home turf from now till then @ Atco.

Quote: It will hit the track as soon as we are finished tuning



Sounds good, appreciate the help!



Thanks..We will know as soon as the map sensor arrives...Patiently waiting..
I hope you aint drivin

Quote: are the parts your waiting for coming in today...does it look like it may hit the dyno again today? or more for tomorrow?
Part should be here wed or thursday with scheduled tune for Friday...

Appreciate it! Fly in from Germany and check it out this Friday, your welcome to come to the tuning session. We have nothing to hide[/quote]

We dont?!


Man I wish, dont think Uncle Sam would let me fly just to see the tuning of this car, Good Luck guys[/quote]

Uncle TeeJay will, i'll send a Fedex call tag

Quote: TJ its funny how people hate but once we get the final numbers out & hit the track it will be cool...when you planning on going to the track anyway as soon as you get it back?

& people understand we are not trying to blow up the motor just push it to the extreme limits even if it means blowing it so don't take that wrong
I will be attending the (2) events @ E-Town on Nov 1st and 15th. Will be tearin it up at Atco from now till then. I'm yet to drive down the 1320 in the Evo, so i gots to get use to it.

Quote: That correction factor is serious. Good luck breaking a record that no one cares about kid. Also...700 has already been broken on a stock motor outside this forum so many people here call "world". I would tell you what part will most likely fail, but since the car is making 100+ less than what the dyno says, it will probably hold together just fine
No one cares about? How many pages are in this thread? With 14,000+ views, no one seems interested. I think this is actually the most view under the dyno section, but then again, no one cares. Please prove 700 hp stock block evo, or OPEN MOUTH, INSERT FOOT

Quote: Would you mind linking me? I haven't found any Evolution X's that are over 700whp besides ours. If you don't want to link in this thread, send me a PM please.

Thanks,

Michael
Izzzz smell BS

Quote: Nope.
hehe

Quote: We have no problem admitting it if it's true. We just need to see some proof. We have searched on the net and haven't found anything. We plan on pushing the X even more in the near future.

Thanks,

Michael
YA!!!

Quote: Not everything happens on the internet.

There are privately owned evo's out there that are faster (power and time wise) than some shop cars on the forum, but the owners don't care enough or want to publicize it.

Some people actually like to avoid the exposure and attention...... imagine that

Scorke
Not everything, just almost! Every day we all go on line and see things we never new existed. If it exists, its somewhere on the www.
Oct 20, 2009 | 08:12 PM
  #392  
Quote: Dude, where the hell u been? read pages 17-23
Where the hell have you been? Read my post on Page 16, where I originally asked about the 1.2 CF...which I still find funny.
Oct 20, 2009 | 08:18 PM
  #393  
Quote: Where the hell have you been? Read my post on Page 16, where I originally asked about the 1.2 CF...which I still find funny.
I agree, I said this car is a great build and is very capable of being a record, but 1.2 is pretty high. Gates, lets just wait for him to hit the dynojet, then we can compare

From my own experience, 1.0CF DD dyno to dynojet is around a 1.11.
Oct 20, 2009 | 09:24 PM
  #394  
Quote: Where the hell have you been? Read my post on Page 16, where I originally asked about the 1.2 CF...which I still find funny.
You stated "no one was talkin shyt" and i pointed to exactly where the shyt talking took place. No you wanna bounce to the 1.2CF. You can't even stay on YOUR OWN topic.

How bout this, How bout we hit 800 with the infamous 1.2CF and then drop it down to 1.0, 1.1 or whatever the hell you want and i'll eat 700. Then i go shyt on a dynojet when i'm done..

btw, tell eric i said "Hallo!"

Quote: I agree, I said this car is a great build and is very capable of being a record, but 1.2 is pretty high. Gates, lets just wait for him to hit the dynojet, then we can compare

From my own experience, 1.0CF DD dyno to dynojet is around a 1.11.
Thanks for that info on the CFs. Like i stated earlier in the thread, i'm new to this whole correction factor bizness. It was always either "i made 500hp on a mustang, and then i made 575 on a dynojet..." Always knew that mustangs and DD were conservative, just never knew about "fluffin" numbers. Personally, i don't like it and now that i know about it, things are going to be a little bit different on Friday. Once we are all done, i will have Charlie load the 93oct street tune map and make a (0)CF pass, then a (1.0)CF and a (1.2)CF to compare the differences. Unless it can be done mathamaticly, then there's no point. Once she is back in my hands, i will be going down to Maryland to run on a Mustang (Friends Shop), the up to PA on a Dynopack (Evans) and then on a Dynojet (not sure where).
Oct 20, 2009 | 10:45 PM
  #395  
Quote: You stated "no one was talkin shyt" and i pointed to exactly where the shyt talking took place. No you wanna bounce to the 1.2CF. You can't even stay on YOUR OWN topic.

How bout this, How bout we hit 800 with the infamous 1.2CF and then drop it down to 1.0, 1.1 or whatever the hell you want and i'll eat 700. Then i go shyt on a dynojet when i'm done..

btw, tell eric i said "Hallo!"
No one is! They are pointing out the fact that a company is trying to set a "World Record" on a manipulated dyno chart. It's just sad, and isn't benefiting anyone in the community. True results will be much more respectable.

Again, best of luck with the build
Oct 20, 2009 | 10:50 PM
  #396  
Hi mate can you also run it in shootout mode (shoot_44) as that is u.k standard configuration for dd (gear 4) Shootout mode allows no manipulation...

Kind regards,
GUM
Oct 21, 2009 | 12:06 AM
  #397  
Quote: Hi mate can you also run it in shootout mode (shoot_44) as that is u.k standard configuration for dd (gear 4) Shootout mode allows no manipulation...

Kind regards,
GUM
now we're talking
Oct 21, 2009 | 05:43 AM
  #398  
Hello guys,

Now this is emabarrasing for me, spoke to my tuner after a couple of pm's from guys on here and it turns out our issue was map sensor related. When I spoke to him last he explained the map sensor and why it causes issues on the evo x, i just assumed if he knew all that then that couldnt possibly be the problem.

Having asked for some info today whilst he had time to talk to me he explained that feeling is directly related to the map sensor and certain tables within the ecu.

Kind regards,
GUM
Oct 21, 2009 | 11:37 AM
  #399  
Quote: Hello guys,

Now this is emabarrasing for me, spoke to my tuner after a couple of pm's from guys on here and it turns out our issue was map sensor related. When I spoke to him last he explained the map sensor and why it causes issues on the evo x, i just assumed if he knew all that then that couldnt possibly be the problem.

Having asked for some info today whilst he had time to talk to me he explained that feeling is directly related to the map sensor and certain tables within the ecu.

Kind regards,
GUM
Excellent so it seems we are experiencing the same issues. We just got our map sensor and will be testing it Friday.
Oct 21, 2009 | 11:39 AM
  #400  
Quote: now we're talking
Yea we will run it in shoot44. We honestly don't care about the whole correction business anymore. Our numbers are right inline with ETS and the dynojet their car was on. Whether you guys believe a 1.2CF is too high, it matched ETS's build and we have the same freaking parts!!!

We will leave the car on a 1.0 or shoot44.
Oct 21, 2009 | 11:43 AM
  #401  
Quote: You stated "no one was talkin shyt" and i pointed to exactly where the shyt talking took place. No you wanna bounce to the 1.2CF. You can't even stay on YOUR OWN topic.

How bout this, How bout we hit 800 with the infamous 1.2CF and then drop it down to 1.0, 1.1 or whatever the hell you want and i'll eat 700. Then i go shyt on a dynojet when i'm done..

btw, tell eric i said "Hallo!"



Thanks for that info on the CFs. Like i stated earlier in the thread, i'm new to this whole correction factor bizness. It was always either "i made 500hp on a mustang, and then i made 575 on a dynojet..." Always knew that mustangs and DD were conservative, just never knew about "fluffin" numbers. Personally, i don't like it and now that i know about it, things are going to be a little bit different on Friday. Once we are all done, i will have Charlie load the 93oct street tune map and make a (0)CF pass, then a (1.0)CF and a (1.2)CF to compare the differences. Unless it can be done mathamaticly, then there's no point. Once she is back in my hands, i will be going down to Maryland to run on a Mustang (Friends Shop), the up to PA on a Dynopack (Evans) and then on a Dynojet (not sure where).


PROPS to you for not sticking with bogus CF factors.
Oct 21, 2009 | 11:45 AM
  #402  
Quote: Yea we will run it in shoot44. We honestly don't care about the whole correction business anymore. Our numbers are right inline with ETS and the dynojet their car was on. Whether you guys believe a 1.2CF is too high, it matched ETS's build and we have the same freaking parts!!!

We will leave the car on a 1.0 or shoot44.
And have you actually taken your or a customers car to ETS' dyno and did back to back comparison, or are you simply comparing over some 'similar' dyno #'s posted on the internet?
Oct 21, 2009 | 11:47 AM
  #403  
Quote: And have you actually taken your or a customers car to ETS' dyno and did back to back comparison, or are you simply comparing over some 'similar' dyno #'s posted on the internet?
Guys just forget it, they said they were going to run in 1.0CF and shoot44 only, so just drop it.

They were simply saying the cars were basically the same exact build and should yield almost identical numbers. No more, I am sick of getting emails about correction factors, lol.
Oct 21, 2009 | 11:48 AM
  #404  
Quote: now we're talking
Quote: And have you actually taken your or a customers car to ETS' dyno and did back to back comparison, or are you simply comparing over some 'similar' dyno #'s posted on the internet?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why we were using a correction factor for this build..I will leave it at that. Keep bashing the thread, It looks great.
Oct 21, 2009 | 12:47 PM
  #405  
everyones pushing th limit on these twin scroll 35r's why not takin a risk sinceyour already throwing money away and try a 40 or 42r on vp? i know ets offers the kit on lancershop .com and what not, but **** really ppl if your going to spend 15 to 20k why not really go all the way and do it right with the correctly upgraded components to maintain the power without igniting the whole dam car? make the calls get the correct upgrades and do it right thefirst time . . cutting corners can be costly so make sure you do it right the first time theres no rush to get to first place . . what ever happen to slow and steady wins the race lol mechanic wise . .