o and its not always about correction factor its on who can boost the quickest . . boost lag is a bi*** if you guys can make it happen quicker then youll be off the line faster and for most of you thathave tried buildin evos with low or no boost lag you know its a kick as* ride when your spiken that psi and your breaken neck so get rrrrr dooooonne the guys in miami support you guys alot so get it done right

 

That may be b/c they want the car to hit boost sooner. I went with the hta twin scroll 82 instead of the 86 just b/c I wanted it to not spool that late. I'm not out to break a record or anything though either.

 

I'm still trying to clarify here... so you guys are running a 1.2 CF? I'm at 4500 ft and we don't even use correction factors that high when we are experiencing 7000+ ft DA days. Up here, even 1.10-1.13 seems most accurate to normalize to sea level #'s.

And we all know through the endless debate of DynoJet vs. MD that the difference between the dyno output numbers isn't necessarily a percentage difference, and can be a combination of a constant difference + a ratio. Much like drivetrain loss not necessarily being a solid percentage.

Not bashing, just truly trying to understand how you think a CF of 1.20 is kosher at sea level.

Anyway, good luck as I've said before. I'm really interested to see how the essentially stock bottom end holds up. People will bring up the tight ring end gaps, but that's not an issue if you keep combustion temperatures down... so hopefully you won't see any busted top ring lands!

 

We are comparing numbers of exactly the same builds, the only difference is that we are running aftermarket cams and they ran stock cams, so if anything, ar numbers should be slightly higher...

It's like telling an 8 yr old, "NO", that just keep doin it and doin it.

You and me both...


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FYI, this isnt a TwinScroll. HTA3586R is meant to be ran as a single scroll kit. I didn't want the turbo to take forever to hit, i'm quite happy with my choice and the choice Michael @ ETS helped me decide. It is what it is, and we may go 40 or 42r with the *new* motor. 700hp is 700hp, just because the larger turbo can produce more HP doesn't mean the engine can. Did you forget we are werkin with a STOCK block?

With the parts that i used, i feel NO Corners were cut. I specificly told DG, i didn't want to cut any corners and if they needed something, just order it or tell me and i'll order it. i had plans to get some other items was was told that they were NOT needed, so i didn't bother.

Exactly, ETS actually started on the 82 and then went to the 86. I asked about using the 86 as a twin scroll and Michael told me, "Sure it works, but she'll fall flat on her face up top!" and i sure didn't want this...

 

Who has ran a HTA86 twin scroll?

Any results? Interested to see how it performs, as the HTA35 seems to work great as a twin scroll turbo, as does the FPRED, and 40R, and 42R.

Scorke

 

And to add, the HTA86 is 800 WHP capable, so I think they did a fine job choosing that turbo.

 

When trying to get the most power possible with the HTA3586 T3 open scroll is the way to do it on the T3 exhaust housing. If you are looking for a little faster spool, but don't want to max the turbo you can run a twin scroll T3 HTA3586, but the a/r is kind of small... it's only available in a .78 a/r (It's not a bad way to go, but the open scroll w/ .82 will make more power up top.) We recently sold a couple kits with a T4 .96 and 1.06 a/r so we should have some results up shortly.

Thanks,

Michael

 

Ok boys we think the issue is fixed! We popped the new 4 bar map sensor in, re-scaled and quickly tuned the mapping at 31psi. Still on VP Import fuel and the car is plain nasty at this power level. The car made over 600hp and sure as hell feels like it on a quick little road test we did.

We do not know for sure that the issue is fixed until we strap the car back down on the dyno Tomorrow for the final tuning. The goal is still 700hp which will most likely take 37-40psi on VP Import on a stock ecu and stock bottom end...

Here is a quick little video of some in-car action and 9,000 rpm on some industrial roads near our facility. Hopefully I don't get in trouble for it, I only made it so the community can see how nasty and powerful this car is at 30+psi and Import fuel since there is not much footage of any evo x in action at this power level.


When the car is done with the tuning here, we will be bringing it to our local dynojet.

VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J766x11b6LM

 

I can't wait tell tomorrow!

Thanks,

Michael

 

TJ I seen that car & almost took it home but sadly I couldn't catch it...this thing revs to 8500k like a beast


Fast shifting is needed lool

 

That thing sounds great! I cant wait to see the results of tomorrows tune!

 

sweet car tj. skype?

 

niiiice... (4)

 

?!?!?

Your saying a t3 open scroll housing will make more top end power than a T4 open scroll or T4 divided?

I just cannot wrap my mind around that...

Scorke

 

Scorke, he said if you are trying to make the MOST ON A T3, then use an open scroll.