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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 06:38 AM
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^ let him put those carbos in and then ask the same question.

i think its great the VIII/IX & X share the same pads... the more people that use them the less expensive/more available they'll be. does anyone know if the rotors are the same too?
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by igo4bmx
According to Chu fronts on evo8-x are the same.
Loving the new addition to your sig.

Originally Posted by dek0026
Our fronts are the same. The X rears are bigger.

Josh is running my et500 fronts. Ask him how well his car stops


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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysinBoost
^ let him put those carbos in and then ask the same question.

i think its great the VIII/IX & X share the same pads... the more people that use them the less expensive/more available they'll be. does anyone know if the rotors are the same too?
No. X has larger rotor, and larger calipers. Good upgrade for those running 18s!
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 06:48 AM
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I wonder if their is any 'real' advantage to a larger rotor when you're using the same sized pad? I guess you have more heat absorbing capacity with a larger rotor, but you're going to still have to get rid of it somehow...
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by igo4bmx
According to Chu...
There's your problem. Starting of a sentence like that is never a good thing.
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 06:58 AM
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The X has larger rotors and calipers





I just wanted to be late to the party again.
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysinBoost
I wonder if their is any 'real' advantage to a larger rotor when you're using the same sized pad? I guess you have more heat absorbing capacity with a larger rotor, but you're going to still have to get rid of it somehow...
heat + metal + surface area = cooling.

look at heatsinks on CPUs and you'll see why surface area matters so much.

however on a slightly larger rotor- not sure how beneficial that would be
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Originally Posted by AlwaysinBoost
I wonder if their is any 'real' advantage to a larger rotor when you're using the same sized pad? I guess you have more heat absorbing capacity with a larger rotor, but you're going to still have to get rid of it somehow...
Larger rotor = longer torque arm. More torque given everything else is the same. Like putting an extension on a wrench to get more torque.

Larger rotors is more mass to absorb heat but also more rotating mass which is bad. 5 lbs of rotating mass is not the same as 5 lbs of static mass.

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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 06:59 AM
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According to Chu, I have a very large *****.
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 07:08 AM
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According to Chu, I have a very large *****.
Chu also thinks size 7.5 shoe is large
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by igo4bmx
heat + metal + surface area = cooling.

look at heatsinks on CPUs and you'll see why surface area matters so much.

however on a slightly larger rotor- not sure how beneficial that would be
that makes sense...

Originally Posted by honda-guy
Larger rotor = longer torque arm. More torque given everything else is the same. Like putting an extension on a wrench to get more torque.

Larger rotors is more mass to absorb heat but also more rotating mass which is bad. 5 lbs of rotating mass is not the same as 5 lbs of static mass.
I understand the leverage thing, but how does more torque help in braking?

...unless the pad/caliper is positioned more to the outside, which I would imagine it would be with a larger rotor.

agree about the rotating mass vs. static mass. When I was drag racing the common formula everyone seemed throw around was 1lb rotating mass is equal to 10lb static mass. not sure how accurate that really is though.

Chu what are your thoughts on the subject?
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysinBoost
that makes sense...



I understand the leverage thing, but how does more torque help in braking?

...unless the pad/caliper is positioned more to the outside, which I would imagine it would be with a larger rotor.

agree about the rotating mass vs. static mass. When I was drag racing the common formula everyone seemed throw around was 1lb rotating mass is equal to 10lb static mass. not sure how accurate that really is though.

Chu what are your thoughts on the subject?
Imagine trying to snap off a bolt with a wrench as opposed to snapping it off with that same wrench but iwth a breaker bar. Only the car is the nut youre snapping off. omfgnewbalert!
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 07:26 AM
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My thoughts are exactly what Thai said. Given everything else is equal, the physics works. Think about this, and the theory behind the Essex/AP Racing kit that we TRIED to discuss a few weeks ago...
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 07:26 AM
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I snap nuts off by the gallon.

I just log into ladyboys.com and get to work.
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by chu
My thoughts are exactly what Thai said. Given everything else is equal, the physics works. Think about this, and the theory behind the Essex/AP Racing kit that we TRIED to discuss a few weeks ago...

you mean the part about you thinking a size 7.5 is large or that its never a good idea to start a sentence with "according to Chu"

IIRC we never had any such discussion because someone was skurd to give their opinion on the subject...

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