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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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did someone say gay slaves?
Old Jan 19, 2012 | 03:54 PM
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Dan = E85 refueling specialist
Speaking of the flow and go, think Dan could bring that so I have enough E-85 for the HPDE Winning? Dan - thoughts since you are the expert?
Old Jan 19, 2012 | 04:09 PM
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Text me for details but you're going to need a bit more than one flo n go if you're going to dominate. I have a good number of five gallon jugs and the flo n go if you need to borrow. If you have a vp style fuel can, even better?

Are you still on e85? How about a pump has tune? E85 right now is e70 which is knock city for me at least. That is part of the reason I switched to pump gas.
Old Jan 19, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dek0026
Text me for details but you're going to need a bit more than one flo n go if you're going to dominate. I have a good number of five gallon jugs and the flo n go if you need to borrow. If you have a vp style fuel can, even better?

Are you still on e85? How about a pump has tune? E85 right now is e70 which is knock city for me at least. That is part of the reason I switched to pump gas.
I will be able to switch back and forth from pump to E85 as needed. So bacially 2.5 tanks for HPDE domination day?
Old Jan 19, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 04:29 PM
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Lets presume that you have about 1/2 of tank when you arrive. The flo n go will cover you for 4 sessions. Then you'll need about 5-10 gallons if you run every session and then take into account of getting home which could be at least another 5 gallons.

So you'd need to leave home with a full tank, a flo n go and about 4-5 five gallon jugs.

This is assuming you are going to live up to all your trash talk. If not, then I say go with just a flo n go and sit in paddock and cry between sessions because you're slow.
Old Jan 19, 2012 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by robertg


Who is helping you tune that kart for E85?

Did you pick out your pit crew for this Monday event?

Karts are carbureted, just need a screw driver to tune.

Team NNR will be my pit crew and you can be Chief media/photographer for team TDR (Ti Diep Racing)
Old Jan 19, 2012 | 06:01 PM
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Thanks Dan for breaking that down, minus the last post.

See AIB, people start with comments to me and I cannot help myself and respond.

I have (3) VP and a 5 gallon plastic jug. With your flow and go that gives me 25 gallons, a tank and 3/4's.

I am not sure how you guys have your cars flashed, but there is a mod you can do to switch maps on the fly. Basically you hold accelerator to floor for a few seconds while car is not running but ignition is on, once map switches the check engine light flashes a few times and then you are good to go. So my plan would be to use up all E85 and just switch maps to pump, load up on pump gas and call it a day if I ran out.

I also was thinking of rolling like that while daily driving if it is not to bad starting. I figure going from E85 to pump is not as much worry as going from pump to E85. I would want to drain out the pump gas as not to funk up the fuel and cause a problem. Obiviously car will be tuned for both fuels, so switch on the fly is no biggie. I am switching to EBC so I do not have to mess with turning boost down manually.

No one is set up like how I am saying? I would not run E85 either if I could switch on the fly, deal breaker.
Old Jan 19, 2012 | 06:24 PM
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LIP Collison definitely has a good looking website, beats the local fair of Philly Body Shop Mafia. Hard to trust a shop that cranks out 20 civics a day to do the job carefully.
Old Jan 19, 2012 | 07:15 PM
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Mike, Alt Map is great, but you should remember that each map was probably tuned with 100% 93 and 100% E85. When you get in a situation where you switch, there will be residual of one of the fuels left over, which affects octane rating, and largely affects your tune. You'll have to ensure your tank is empty for a proper switch.

As a side note, I ran alt-map since the beginning of 2011. Ended up doing two maps for 93, one for 24psi with a richer trackday tune to keep EGTs down, and the other at 26psi safely leaned for dd and autox. I removed the mbc and opted for the EBCS for its ability to retain the boost error correction. There's nothing better than not having to worry about boost spike regardless of weather conditions. I also bring my laptop to all track events in case I run into some issue. I think Marc and Thai does the same!

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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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Mike, I have the Cobb accessport and can flash on the flash. It's not the same as the dual map tephra thing but no less convenient.

I used to say all the things you were saying about switching on the fly and being ok. I was on e85 for two years. I just switched and at first the car ran like total and complete ****. I let it idle a while in the garage (this was after running it for 15 miles after the gas light came on and filled up with gas). I took it out for a short easy ride and it was pulling major timing and running super lean. It was lean at cruise (in the 16s afr) until ran it super low again and added another 5 gallons. I ran it super low twice on gas before filling the tank completely.

My recent tune went smoothly and fuel was pure and good.

My point is that having the ability to switch on the fly doesn't mean you can run out of e85 and switch over and run it hard. It takes work and time to switch over. Switching over to get home is a whole other thing though.

You're welcome to borrow my flo and go and whatever else you'll need. Just let me know.
Old Jan 19, 2012 | 07:33 PM
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Thanks Dan for backing my point...or shall I say, dickriding me? :LOL:


Mike, tow car to track. Done deal!
Old Jan 19, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 07:52 PM
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imma dominate that **** on 87 mixed with diesel, what and learn kids.
Old Jan 19, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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Dude, there's no post counts in regional threads...so quit trolling and gtfo!



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