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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 06:55 AM
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 07:00 AM
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Thai that some good times. I'm shooting for 28s in TTA spec when I next visit Main.
If you ain't doing 28's in a TTA car ar summit, you should quite the game. End story.
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 07:29 AM
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If you ain't doing 28's in a TTA car ar summit, you should quite the game. End story.
If you can't use words properly, you should quit the game.
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 07:38 AM
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 07:38 AM
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Who's got some pads for our boy Tim?
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 07:48 AM
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If you can't use words properly, you should quit the game.
Effing autocorrect on phone. If you can't understand my engrish, you should quit the game.
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 07:49 AM
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Who's got some pads for our boy Tim?
I got used CL rc6. Might last a few sessions.
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 07:54 AM
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 08:01 AM
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NIce vids Honda-guy and good time last weekend. You should have stayed on Sunday. Mad track time. 23's on street tires is NO JOKE. Deez foolz don't even kno how fast that is. To put it in perspective, last time I was there a fully built and shop supported EVO with motons, hoosiers and just about everything that can be done (big turbo, built motor, high boost, custom manifold, ect) was running 21's. For another point of reference my very first time at Main back in Aptil I went 27's on street tires. so your time is a whole 5 seconds faster than mine and only 2 sec slower than a beast of an EVO.

My weekend was bitter sweet. The bimmer was understeering like crazy with the new swaybars. I tried everything I/we could think of to dial it out including disconnecting the front bar but nothing did the trick. Its very frustrating when you know how the car should feel and what it should be doing with certain input but you can't get it to happen. I'm not one to blame equipment but that was the only change since last time I was there.

The other issue I am having is with my ABS not working. That is even bigger than the understeer issue. I would lock up an inside tire with roughly around 60% of brake pedal pressure I normally use. Need to get that fixed before I take it out again. When an under powered car can't turn-in or stop well its not fun to drive.

On the bright side, aside from the Miata student saving our lives, the other good things that happened were I was able to 'test' the bimmer out before WGI and realize I still had all these problems. It would have really sucked to drive all teh way up there thinking the car was good only to find on the first lap I had mad issues. The other awesome thing that happend was one of my buddies old students game me a free suspension worth about $1400.00. That really made the weekend. He will be at WGI, too!

Looks like with all these bimmer issues I'm having I won't be taking that car to WGI this weekend, so TED will be in full effect! HOLLA

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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by steinvb12
I don't know if I got enough, but it is, what it is. I just put in Super Blue fulid and have DS2500 pads. They have maybe 3-4,000 easy miles on them and 3 autox's. Plenty of pad left.
Like others already said, you might have issues with those pads. It will really depend on how fast you go and how good you are with the brakes. Those pads don't have a high temp rating, so they will not be able to take repeated stops from the speeds you can generate at WGI. If you just *****-foot around the track you'll be fine, but if you are nailing T1 and WOT from there to the bus stop then I think you're gonna have issues, bra.
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysinBoost
NIce vids Honda-guy and good time last weekend. You should have stayed on Sunday. Mad track time. 23's on street tires is NO JOKE. Deez foolz don't even kno how fast that is. To put it in perspective, last time I was there a fully built and shop supported EVO with motons, hoosiers and just about everything that can be done (big turbo, built motor, high boost, custom manifold, ect) was running 21's. For another point of reference my very first time at Main back in Aptil I went 27's on street tires. so your time is a whole 5 seconds faster than mine and only 2 sec slower than a beast of an EVO.

My weekend was bitter sweet. The bimmer was understeering like crazy with the new swaybars. I tried everything I/we could think of to dial it out including disconnecting the front bar but nothing did the trick. Its very frustrating when you know how the car should feel and what it should be doing with certain input but you can't get it to happen. I'm not one to blame equipment but that was the only change since last time I was there.

The other issue I am having is with my ABS not working. That is even bigger than the understeer issue. I would lock up an inside tire with roughly around 60% of brake pedal pressure I normally use. Need to get that fixed before I take it out again. When an under powered car can't turn-in or stop well its not fun to drive.

On the bright side, aside from the Miata student saving our lives, the other good things that happened were I was able to 'test' the bimmer out before WGI and realize I still had all these problems. It would have really sucked to drive all teh way up there thinking the car was good only to find on the first lap I had mad issues. The other awesome thing that happend was one of my buddies old students game me a free suspension worth about $1400.00. That really made the weekend. He will be at WGI, too!

Looks like with all these bimmer issues I'm having I won't be taking that car to WGI this weekend, so TED will be in full effect! HOLLA

Sweet!
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 08:18 AM
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^ you is welcome for getting you to come out this weekend and scored a free set of suspension
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ineedmorepsi
Not my choice of fluid or pads but they'll suffice to say the least. As long as you're not being a brake cowboy.
I'm a novice running in novice group, bra. Thanks for the tips!


Originally Posted by AlwaysinBoost
Like others already said, you might have issues with those pads. It will really depend on how fast you go and how good you are with the brakes. Those pads don't have a high temp rating, so they will not be able to take repeated stops from the speeds you can generate at WGI. If you just *****-foot around the track you'll be fine, but if you are nailing T1 and WOT from there to the bus stop then I think you're gonna have issues, bra.
Thanks for the input. I really don't have a clue what it might take for pads. I've heard people do several track days with DS2500's, but WGI is a different track than most. I think my pads would be fine for day 1, but depending on how comfotable I feel, it may be a problem day 2. Either way I will have a blast, even if I need to brake sooner and go slower, but it would suck to be limited because of pads.

I think I may have sourced some pads from the Chu-ster...


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Who's got some pads for our boy Tim?
Who wants to help me change them Friday?
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by steinvb12
I'm a novice running in novice group, bra. Thanks for the tips!




Thanks for the input. I really don't have a clue what it might take for pads. I've heard people do several track days with DS2500's, but WGI is a different track than most. I think my pads would be fine for day 1, but depending on how comfotable I feel, it may be a problem day 2. Either way I will have a blast, even if I need to brake sooner and go slower, but it would suck to be limited because of pads.

I think I may have sourced some pads from the Chu-ster...




Who wants to help me change them Friday?
Tim, if how you autox is any indication I think you're going to be pretty fast at WGI. You'll probably be more than fine for the first couple sessions as you get a feel for everything, but if you're comfortable there from all the sim racing and start to push keep in mind your pads might be an issue.

I'm sure between all of us we'll have enough spares to keep you going. I usually only carry one spare set with me but I'll being extras just in case. Swapping pads won't be an issue either. Not a game racing doesn't play around when it comes to HPDE domination.
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 08:35 AM
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I completely wasted DS 2500 front pads on my car at Beaver Run or Pocono back in the day, I forget which track. I would definitely get different pads for that heavy beast you drive. If you are going to pussyfoot around track I guess you will be ok, but if you are going to TED you best get something better. I personally like my Carbotech XP12's, but pads are like a-holes, everyone has an opinion. Just get something that can handle the abuse and you will be good. I can personally say brake issues are no fun. My brakes were acting up at Lightning, scared me 3 separate times before we got my car right. Issue was oil and antifreeze getting on front tires, my car was spitting a bit of fluid that weekend. Pads and brakes when they worked were great.



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